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I think that Lord Young and the Tory back-benchers who spoke 'off the record' agreeing with him have proven that it is 'The same old Tories'.

Their old Etonian analysis hasn't changed from that of the old Etonian generals in WW1. They view the situation in the abstract, with no consideration for individuals and their families. It doesn't affect their life-style so can never understand how out of touch with reality they really are.
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I think that Lord Young and the Tory back-benchers who spoke 'off the record' agreeing with him have proven that it is 'The same old Tories'.

Their old Etonian analysis hasn't changed from that of the old Etonian generals in WW1. They view the situation in the abstract, with no consideration for individuals and their families. It doesn't affect their life-style so can never understand how out of touch with reality they really are.
Was thinking exactly the same thing. After hundreds of thousands been made redundant I can't see how they have had it so easy. Just goes to show how the tory party really think of those who are on the breadline.
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How much longer will the Coalition last?

Clegg looking like a limp dong and Cameron surrounded by ministers announcing tory policies on the hoof - you would think they are doing it to piss of the limp lib-dems.

We are con-dem-ned.
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Anyone been counting the U-turns?

Seems like policies are being made up on the spot without being thought through. Not really surprising though, as many thought Cameron was bereft of policy and was all PR.
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Anyone been counting the U-turns?

Seems like policies are being made up on the spot without being thought through. Not really surprising though, as many thought Cameron was bereft of policy and was all PR.
Like all political parties they promise the undecided voters around election time things that are in the news ie refuse collection,immigration,illegal wars and so on hoping they can sway them enough to help them get elected and will stoop to any trick in the book to achieve this,and once in will gladly uturn on these promises under the the old chestnut of it being unafordable or what ever excuse they dream up,what annoys me is that we the voter will only vote for the two main parties come election time,knowing that we will be used time and time again to vote these lying selfish bastards in once again to line there own pockets on the backs of the rank and file.its time we cloned a Olly Cromwell to sort these Fookers out once more.. Rant Over
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If you like the sound of a tory minister squirming because he clearly does not know what he is talking about AND his party has been found out re: public sector pensions.....have a listen:

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If you like the sound of a tory minister squirming because he clearly does not know what he is talking about AND his party has been found out re: public sector pensions.....have a listen:
Ha... wankers.... trying to take maximum advantage of the 'ecomomic climate' by screwing as many people as they can and then blaming the previous government. 90% ideology, supported by Lib Dem puppets who have sold themselves down the river.
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Ha... wankers.... trying to take maximum advantage of the 'ecomomic climate' by screwing as many people as they can and then blaming the previous government. 90% ideology, supported by Lib Dem puppets who have sold themselves down the river.
How long after the general election are we and they are still blaming the lack of growth on the Labour party. They have been in power long enough to start turning things around but it seems we are going backwards. Going to be a long 3-4 years!
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How long after the general election are we and they are still blaming the lack of growth on the Labour party. They have been in power long enough to start turning things around but it seems we are going backwards. Going to be a long 3-4 years!
I may be wrong, but I thought in Labour's last quarter in power, growth was about 1.6% and projected to improve..... Then this lot come in, change direction, and the economy goes tits.

Cameron said a lot in the run up to the election about Britain being broken and he was the man to fix it. I've read many commentators that suggest he doesn't seem to realise (or care) what he is doing will create divisions far worse than we saw in the 1980's.

It's all part of the plan to reduce the state, just like Thatcher had in mind. Also why they want to make working for the state less attractive than at present.

I'd also love to see something done about his tory tax evading & avoiding mates, which could contribute a substantial reduction in the deficit.
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I may be wrong, but I thought in Labour's last quarter in power, growth was about 1.6% and projected to improve..... Then this lot come in, change direction, and the economy goes tits.
Now I thought that but wasn't 100%.

Maybe these daft young students will realise that 1. The reason why Lib Dems have always been poor in general elections is that they never really have a plan or a backbone and 2. the Tories will always fuck over the working class. I still think that the result was a anti Iraq vote rather than policies.

I found it hilarious that when the Labour Party was talking about increasing National Insurance the Tories went ballistic saying it was a tax on jobs, yet the second they came into power they put VAT up 2.5% and increased the burden on every family, whether they are working or not. I would have took the increase in my NI contributions but now I have to pay extra on everything that I buy.
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The rise in VAT affects the poorest to a greater extent than it affects the well off. The poorest have to spend most (if not all) of their incomes to survive. The richest spend a fraction of theirs. The proportion of income being paid out in the extra VAT by the poorest is higher than the proportion of income being paid out by the relatively rich.

Regarding the recent award of the 'Thameslink rolling-stock' contract going to Germany; For once I agree with the coalition. The criteria for winning this contract were set out at the beginning of the process (under Labour) and were set on value-for-money, without any socio-economic considerations. As with many mistakes from the last government, this was down to 'New Labour' trying to out-Tory the Tories.
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Some speculation that if Miliband gets his way with the forcing a vote on Murdoch buying $ky, the Lib-Dems will vote with Labour. I've heard of a couple of political bloggers thinking with Cameron's credibillity down the pan, this could be the beginning of the end of the coalition. Most analysts I have heard today, think Cameron chickened out of facing the commons today.

I can see the logic in it. If tory, and in particular, Cameron's support subsides dramatically, the Lib-dems would actually (probably) give themselves a boost in support by not propping up an unpopular tory led administration.

Interesting times ahead.
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I'm asking myself.... the USA credit status has been downgraded, the Eurozone is under pressure and the UK government claims that 'the medicine is working'. If this is the case, why is Sterling so weak against these 'lame duck' currencies? Speculators, government lies or both?
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I'm asking myself.... the USA credit status has been downgraded, the Eurozone is under pressure and the UK government claims that 'the medicine is working'. If this is the case, why is Sterling so weak against these 'lame duck' currencies? Speculators, government lies or both?
..Got it One..well the government lies that is
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