Manchester United 2010/11

[stenelly]

thought it was time we started a man united thread up again. now for Suzie's favorite topic http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/jim-white/article/23218/

[ruudboy]

Much as I despise them, it's a little ridiculous to write anyone off after two games. They have probelms though, mascherano might be a little wanker but he's also a very good midfielder. who replaces him? But more importantly, circa 1990 i remeber getting shitloads of stick from scousers as we hadn't won title for 23 years. it was eventually 26 years before we won it. How many years since they've won it?

[Begbie]

Suzie kicking off? Nooooooo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWCK0hCxGjI

[deadlywill]

it was eventually 26 years before we won it. How many years since they've won it?

..20 years - they're catching up.:D

[ruudboy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1306492/United-fans-wonder-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-signed-7-4m-dud-Bebe.html

Well written article here. Might be a year or so before we see the lad, unless he unexpectedly makes the carling cup squad. I imagine he is a bit overwhelmed and needs time to settle. Good luck to him

[ruudboy]

Manchester THE GERS ARE HERE GONNA FUKC YOUR WOMEN AND DRINK YOUR BEER ,if Stennely has not drunk it all :lol::lol::lol: naa only kiddin guys and Suzie ,lets hope we have a better atmosphere this time round looking forward to the games Best of Luck to both teams in the compotition :lol: We all know who the RED hot favs are ,as long as Rangers dont get hammerd Ill be happy ,taking part in the Champions League is like a Cup Final in all the games for us and will bring in much needed funds ,HAVE a great time at Old Trafford and Ibrox if you are lucky enough to get a ticket :lol:

And all the best to Rangers. Been 7 years since we last me in the comp. shoild be fun:D

[deadlywill]

Manchester THE GERS ARE HERE GONNA FUKC YOUR WOMEN AND DRINK YOUR BEER ,if Stennely has not drunk it all :lol::lol::lol: naa only kiddin guys and Suzie ,lets hope we have a better atmosphere this time round looking forward to the games Best of Luck to both teams in the compotition :lol: We all know who the RED hot favs are ,as long as Rangers dont get hammerd Ill be happy ,taking part in the Champions League is like a Cup Final in all the games for us and will bring in much needed funds ,HAVE a great time at Old Trafford and Ibrox if you are lucky enough to get a ticket :lol:

...we'll rape your accounts dept and steal your funds:D

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8946431.stm

preview Man utd v west ham.

talk of scholes getting a break and carrick or giggs replacing him.

Clattenburg refereeing. We should get a penalty then:?

[revolver]

One word: Berbatov will prove his worth and emerge from the shadows this season.



Best not to count the words.

[ruudboy]

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D80 0F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6651683

Fergie very passionate yesterda in defending Bebe. Read it as if we need to be reminded why he's the greatest manager of all time.

[goodison]

Tbh, Fergie's always going to be incredibly defensive about this signing - he is with all his signings - but one so risky he will be extra impassioned. In his eyes, he (Fergie) can do no wrong and will also defend everything he does, even in the face of adversity.

His ego just won't allow others to question his decisions. History will tell if it were a good signing or not, but as has been pointed out before, most likely he'll be loaned out to a few clubs until there's hardly any media attention - if he is indeed a flop - before being released or sold on without any fanfare.

[ruudboy]

You're missing the point Goodison. Fergies admitted that he's taken big risk with Bebe. He's admitted signing him without ever seeing a video of him, Carlos Queiroz recommended they take the chance on him as Madrid et al were sniffing around. It is a spiteful thing (if fergie telling truth) for too ostracised journos to make up nonsense like that.

The Bebe story has really got to me. I'ts like a walt disney script. I would imagine he's pretty screwed up at the moment and doesn't know whether he's coming or going. Anyone that's had his bacground, I wish them all the best.

[ruudboy]

routine performance, 3-0 home to west ham, nothing changes. good to see rooney score the pen, but he doesn't seem right. if his ankle a problem, he should be allowed sort it, even if it means he out for 10-12 weeks. bring on everton after the break

[fishtoast]

just as predicted 3-0 to man utd [dam account suspended thing-at least 3 perfect today],easy win for everton at goodison up next

[ruudboy]

Good job yesyerday,nani and berba two nice goals. Good to see michael owen get some time as well. I have a feeling this will be a big season for him. honestly though West Ham are poor, and if they do lose Carlton cole to Liverpool i'm thinking they are a certainty to go down.

[Tats]

good win ,still think Nani is a cnut tho .Id be happy if the season ended now ,i could cope with 3rd place and champions league again and pool getting relegated

[ruudboy]

good win ,still think Nani is a cnut tho .Id be happy if the season ended now ,i could cope with 3rd place and champions league again and pool getting relegated

You nutter shrek!!:lol:

Nani beginning to blossom, great 2nd half of last season, I thought Fergies comments about him were very interesting. He described him as a very shy character, insecure and not always sure of his ability. I think he's quality, after he went public last november and critiscised the boss, he knuckled down and took his chance when he got it.

[Tats]

hes a plank , a short one and ruddy gets on my tits faffin about .Berbatov was my moan last year and Nani is my moan about player this year

[ruudboy]

thank christ your not picking the team!!!:lol:

or me for that matter. I'll remind you at end of season, when we've regained the title and Nani has bagged himself 14-18 goals that you had no faith in him. :?

[Tats]

no chance of that hes bein sold to Dagenham and Redbridge in january for 29p

[ruudboy]

give me the name of the medicine that your psychaitrist prescribed for you shrek!!:eek:

[stenelly]

page 2 and not one rant from Suzie about the pool. i think we've cracked it lads :lol:

[fishtoast]

page 2 and not one rant from Suzie about the pool. i think we've cracked it lads :lol:Thats because she hasnt been here since the man utd thread has started [started the day after she was last on]

[Tats]

page 2 and not one rant from Suzie about the pool. i think we've cracked it lads :lol:
Shes on her hols in yanky land lol

[ruudboy]

tabloids today suggesting rooney won't start for england on friday . . .

like that will happen. how do these people get jobs printing shite like that?

[Begbie]

tabloids today suggesting rooney won't start for england on friday . . .

like that will happen. how do these people get jobs printing shite like that?After his recent displays in a white shirt, should Rooney start for England?

[ruudboy]

with a top player the best thing to do is keep putting him in until his form improves. i understand people being frustrated but he didn't choose to have a poor summer. he shouldn't be a scapegoat. i'd keep him in and i think capello will too

[Tats]

After his recent displays in a white shirt, should Gerrard, . start for England?
no hes shit

[ruudboy]

Capello's going to start gerrard and rooney, come on lads, stop taking piss. forget about the summer, new campaign starts next week, get behind your country again. I'm Irish ffs!!!! i'd be delighted to get to a major championship>........

[ruudboy]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3116633/Man-Utd-have-lined-up-a-10m-bid-plus-Michael-Carrick-for-Jack-Rodwell.html

under normal circumstances i'd say the above was rubbish, but Custis has been right before and he is a mate of fergies. Good deal for united if it went through, Carricks been poor last 18 months

[ruudboy]

Anyone planning to travel to Valencia on Wednesday 29th september should contact your supporters club. There is a general strike taking place in the city of Valencia that day http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BC7DF7CEC%2D3BC3%2D4859%2DA3 FD%2DFE4AAD215DD8%7D&newsid=6651689

[goodison]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3116633/Man-Utd-have-lined-up-a-10m-bid-plus-Michael-Carrick-for-Jack-Rodwell.html

under normal circumstances i'd say the above was rubbish, but Custis has been right before and he is a mate of fergies. Good deal for united if it went through, Carricks been poor last 18 months

10 million plus Carrick is a good deal from United point of view, but an absolute insult to Rodders and to Everton as a whole. 10 million is peanuts in today's market for a club as big as United (even with considering their debt) and as we've stated many times before, we're not a selling club anymore.

Plus Custis is an absolute pinhead.

[fishtoast]

1st off its the sun 2nd Its all rubbish always is,Rodwell has just signed 5 year contract just a month or so ago and said even less than 2 weeks ago he is very happy at Goodison and is in the right place to get better,he might end up there some time in the future as hes a man utd fan but not for a very very long time,some people just believe everything and panic them themselves when a story appears.

[ruudboy]

I seem to remember all these "it'll never happen" rants, before rooney joined United. I wouldn't be so sure if I were you,

By the way, for the record my position on Rodwell or any other player like him joining United is that it's not good for the game. We'll never have a really competitive league if big clubs lose talent they've developed, to another big club who are willing to pay the sort of wages we, Chelsea and City do.

I'm on your side, I was at goodison park 84-85 when Everton were the best side in Europe and beat united 5-0 at home in league. If things continue the way they are going famous old clubs like everton won't be able to mount a serious challenge for the league again.

Look at tottenham, unearthed berbatov and looked like they were ready to have a go at the top two, then bang, united offer 30 million and he refuses to play until he got his way. Aston Villa, building a squad of young talent that could seriously challenge, bang in come city and milner is gone.

I know i'm an idealist, but I wish some of these guys like milner looked around and thought "You know what, we can win the league, i'll stay where I am. But as I said I'm an idealist . . . .

[fishtoast]

I was probably one of a very few people glad rooney left,he was always leaving-took to much credit for doing not as much as what people were saying he was doing-got credit when deserved but took credit when everton won games were he did nothing for me and im very sure rodwell is staying why sign new contract if he had a small chance to leave as said ive heard him say the words himself not from reading a paper etc.

[ruudboy]

clubs will often strategically sign a player to a long contract, even though they intend to sell. It protects them and guarantees them the best possible fee. Better to negotiate the sale of a player who has 4-5 years on contract then a player who has 1-2.

I'm not saying i believe custis, but david moyes might think an experienced player like carrick, (and he is a very good player, even though his form in last year has been indifferent) + cash for a youngster who might not be another Rooney in the end, is a good move, and you are light in midfield, and you've had a bad start and the games aint getting any easier.

Look at Guiseppe rossi, we thought he was the next maradona, potential world beater, and while he's doing okay, he's not become the player we thought he would.

[fishtoast]

Its not everton Style to sign players to long contract to sell and get more money,we just sell when contracts are running out or have 2 years to go type of thing,hes taking his chance with pienaar tho,dont rate carrick at all even some man utd fans on here dont like him,and we have to many midfielders-i used to like rossi tho thought he was pretty decent,ps as ive said every year our season begins in november

[bazzer]

Suzie we,ve all missed you posting ,So the guys decided to dedicate this thread to you ,Happy Posting lol:lol:

[ruudboy]

Tom Cleverly off to Wigan on loan for season. I'm a bit disappointed by that, I was hoping we might see a bit of him this term.

[Tats]

from what ive seen om him hes a half decent player , needs to put on a few pounds tho to cope with the big guys in the prem so a year of wigan pies should do the trick. Hopefully back for good next season with weight and experience

[ruudboy]

Well, we're not surprised that We didn't add to squad before window closed. The boss was spot on, there wasn't a player who was available, who would have improved the squad. He definately knows best.

It was suggested that he would bring in a creative midfield player to cover Scholes, but they don't exist outside the top teams. Liverpool won't sell us Gerard:D and Arsenal won't sell us Fabregas.

One player who I'd love to see at United is Stephen Ireland. I cannot believe City left him go to Villa. Crazy. But it gave me hope, the fact that he is at another club other than city makes me believe we'll see him in a united shirt one day. A marvellous player.

[ruudboy]

http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=%7BF9E570E6%2D407E%2D44BC%2D80 0F%2D4A3110258114%7D&newsid=6651837

Pallister likes the look of smalling. Lot of competition for places this year in defence, with Rio coming back, Vidic, Evans, Brown and now smalling.

Good stuff.

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8965030.stm


Lets hope football history reagrds that as one of the all time howlers!!!:o

[ruudboy]

Forgot to mention, Media not said a lot about Owen Hargreaves. Surprising as he has been included in the 25 man squad. Apparently he's back in US with knee specialist. Must be in the last chance saloon. Shame as he is a magnificent talent, as we saw fleetingly in 2008 when we won the champions league

[ruudboy]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/03092010/58/world-cup-2010-fifa-praise-rooney.html



Gerard Houllier and ex Scotland boss Andy Roxburgh, believe Rooney didn't have a bad summer after all??

[suzie]

hi!!!! sorry to hear your missing me posting about Liverpool it's just now that everyone has realised they are crap including their own fans and the press and pundits etc. I don't need to post it anymore....I was sick to death the last couple of seasons of Liverpool fans believing that they could actually win the Premier League :eek: No need for me to comment anymore...so sorry I have missed a few games but I did see the 2nd half of United v West Ham in a bar in florida we looked really good or West Ham looked really bad I couldn't tell! Anyway heres to a successful United season :D

[ruudboy]

Strange this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8969734.stm

You'd think after being included in prem squad he would naturally be in Euro squad? Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see him play for us again.

He had the talent to be a united legend

[deadlywill]

Strange this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8969734.stm

You'd think after being included in prem squad he would naturally be in Euro squad? Sadly, I don't think we'll ever see him play for us again.

He had the talent to be a united legend

...he was bought with knee problems and that's how it's turned out unfortunately. It's a crying shame as he was a class player. To be honest - don't want him in the champs league squad - he's not up to prem league how can he be up for both

[ruudboy]

can't argue with that deadly, it's a real shame though, because as well as being a great talent, he came across as a nice bloke as well. Shame.

[ruudboy]

Fletch is the daddy


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/8970454.stm

[bazzer]

Fletch is the daddy


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/scotland/8970454.stm
Glad for the guy .deserves the plaudits I think he has been one of uniteds best players over the last couple of seasons hope he keeps his form going .one of the good guys off the field also :)

[ruudboy]

well said bazz. he is an old school guy, i love the man.

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8969734.stm


This came in yesterday about Bebe. Glad for him, can't wait to see him in the shirt. Apparently he will play in Carling cup next week.

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8986156.stm


Let's hope Fergie gets Carlos back on the staff. He ran the show when he was our number two. Players all loved him.

[deadlywill]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8986156.stm


Let's hope Fergie gets Carlos back on the staff. He ran the show when he was our number two. Players all loved him.

..he hasn't had a good time of it over there has he..

[ruudboy]

..he hasn't had a good time of it over there has he..

No, and Madrid wasn't a good experience for him either, although that wasn't entirely his fault. He needs to learn that the rest of his career is to be spent with us. He's like a prodigal son.

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/8983208.stm


expect nothing less from the gaffer:D:D

[mike81]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8986156.stm


Let's hope Fergie gets Carlos back on the staff. He ran the show when he was our number two. Players all loved him.

Some people just can't cut it being the top dog, stick to being an assistant, same goes for Brian Kidd.

[ruudboy]

Some people just can't cut it being the top dog, stick to being an assistant, same goes for Brian Kidd.

Aye, don't forget though MIke, Fergie had told the club before Queiroz left for Portugal, that he should be the next boss. So I'm in agreement with you, but our gaffer thinks different. I hope he comes back anyhow.

[ruudboy]

Nice to see Arsene Wenger take time to tip the nod to Fergie who is 700 premier league games and not out tomorrow



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8989554.stm

[Tats]

Working the next 2 weekends so will miss us beating both everton and liverpoop .Ahhh well thats life lol.

[deadlywill]

Working the next 2 weekends so will miss us beating both everton and liverpoop .Ahhh well thats life lol.

..it's MOTD for you champ :)

[ruudboy]

Tough this today, I don't like the fact Everton haven't won yet. They're too good a side for that. And we got a good beating there last year. Key is to start as fast as they inevitably will. It's a shame Rodwell is injured, I'd have liked to see him today and see what progress he's made.

My head tells me we'll draw this, heart says narrow 1-0 win.

[deadlywill]

Traitorous bastard that i am i put a bet on for HT/FT = ManU/ Ev. A huge $5 at 40/1. Thought Everton looked very good last game so am a bit worried - hope i'm wrong....

[ruudboy]

You bet 5 bucks against United? Wait 'til Mr. Stewart hears of this ya flamin Galaaa!!!!!!

[deadlywill]

You bet 5 bucks against United? Wait 'til Mr. Stewart hears of this ya flamin Galaaa!!!!!!

I'll end up in Alf's rape dungeon if i'm not carefull...

[fishtoast]

should be a good game,pouring down with very heavy rain at the minute,so a few good tackles will happen and might be a red card-always bet against you own team then the only way you lose if its a draw

example everton win=im happy
man utd win = you win money
draw = nothing = [unless you did it that way] etc

[ruudboy]

should be a good game,pouring down with very heavy rain at the minute,so a few good tackles will happen and might be a red card-always bet against you own team then the only way you lose if its a draw

example everton win=im happy
man utd win = you win money
draw = nothing = [unless you did it that way] etc


you weren't wrong with the prediction of a good game.

I'm gutted, to be 3-1 up and lose two goals in injury time . . . . . . . . fuck it, credit to everton for continuing to probe. They reflect their managers character. hope it hasn't damaged us too much in terms of confidence

[fishtoast]

thought we lost our chance with the tame shot osman had with 13 mins to go,,bur credit to us dont know how we did it,god job that jagielka chance didnt go in as it wouldnt have counted-think of moyes then.

[ruudboy]

Aye, just as well ye didn't score last seconds . . . . . fergie might have keeled over as he was choking on the irony!!!

Man city last year (michael owen) anyone?

[fishtoast]

yeah but man utd did that to man city in 3 seperate games last season didnt they scoring the winner in injury time i meant

[sakis27]

Aye, just as well ye didn't score last seconds . . . . . fergie might have keeled over as he was choking on the irony!!!

Man city last year (michael owen) anyone?
what's your opinion; why do you think the ref blew full time when Everton had a one on one ?

[ruudboy]

what's your opinion; why do you think the ref blew full time when Everton had a one on one ?

What do you want me to say, that the game is fixed? THe truthful answer is, I'm not sure when he blew his whistle, we'll have to watch it back. It's not difficult to calculate the time AFTER the board was put up. If he'd gone beyond the time displayed by the fourth official, he had to blow it up.

I don't know because I didn't time it, but, the fourth official put 2 mins on board after the 90. We'll see. People with better technology than us can better demonstrate the differnce between 1. the time added on and 2. the time that should have been added on.

[sakis27]

What do you want me to say, that the game is fixed? THe truthful answer is, I'm not sure when he blew his whistle, we'll have to watch it back. It's not difficult to calculate the time AFTER the board was put up. If he'd gone beyond the time displayed by the fourth official, he had to blow it up.

I don't know because I didn't time it, but, the fourth official put 2 mins on board after the 90. We'll see. People with better technology than us can better demonstrate the differnce between 1. the time added on and 2. the time that should have been added on.
listen retard! i didn't say the game was fixed what i'm saying is if your going to let a team attack till the oppositions team goal keeper you let the play finish THEN you blow full time. if it was man u attacking do you think he would have blown full time ? no i don't think so

[stenelly]

listen retard! i didn't say the game was fixed what i'm saying is if your going to let a team attack till the oppositions team goal keeper you let the play finish THEN you blow full time. if it was man u attacking do you think he would have blown full time ? no i don't think so

talk like that to other members will get a few hrs ban next time. you have been warned. cut it out

[fishtoast]

he blew the whistle the second jagielka touched the ball,before he had run and shot

[sakis27]

talk like that to other members will get a few hrs ban next time. you have been warned. cut it out
and this kind of talk is ok is it?

http://www.fsicrew.info/forums/never-thought-id-see-the-day-t15470p2.html
Originally Posted by ruudboy
Fuck off you patronising cunt. Hows that?

[ruudboy]

he blew the whistle the second jagielka touched the ball,before he had run and shot

Fair enough Fish, I don't know, All I do know is it would be more controversial if everton had scored lol. As of full time we are on the same team for a week as we play your neighbours next sunday!!

[sakis27]

he blew the whistle the second jagielka touched the ball,before he had run and shot
yes i know that but if your going to let a team attack till the oppositions teams goal keeper you let the play finish

[fishtoast]

yeah guessed you knew and knew what you meant,agree with you see what happens to the chance

goals

http://www.matchhighlight.com/premier-league/everton-vs-manchester-united-2/

[ruudboy]

I'd like to be shown in the rules, where it says that the referee has to let the ball go dead before he blows for full time. There isn't such a rule obviously. So discussing this is a waste of time. Fish was generous to admit he blew when jags took possesion. A ref shouldn't be wondering about where the bal is when he decides time is up

[sakis27]

I'd like to be shown in the rules, where it says that the referee has to let the ball go dead before he blows for full time. There isn't such a rule obviously. So discussing this is a waste of time. Fish was generous to admit he blew when jags took possesion. A ref shouldn't be wondering about where the bal is when he decides time is up
if thats the case they should blow time as a player is taking a penalty then

[Begbie]

A referee will normally allow the current phase of play to end but there's no obligation.

I've got memories of a referee blowing for full-time in an international match when the ball was on its way into the net. I can't remember which teams were involved but could probably find it if I put in a bit of effort.

[ruudboy]

if thats the case they should blow time as a player is taking a penalty then

Not so long as the penalty was awarded before time ran out, you get me?
you can't count the time it takes to spot the ball and take the kick.

And mate, don't go calling someone a retard, especially unprovoked. I'm not right to call begbie a cunt (remember i said that), however we were having a heated debate.

Today, I haven't given you a cause to call me a retard. Let's play fair.

[fishtoast]

everton could always moan about the don hutchison goal years ago when the pool keeper hit the ball against hutchisons back but blew before the ball went over the line as it was rolling in -he admitted he was wrong only 7 years later and goal should have stood and everton won 1-0-his name was Graham poll -but thats the pass and who cares now-am i wrong in thinking if the hooter goes-the game only finishes when the ball is dead or just thinking that-dont know

[ruudboy]

everton could always moan about the don hutchison goal years ago when the pool keeper hit the ball against hutchisons back but blew before the ball went over the line as it was rolling in -he admitted he was wrong only 7 years later and goal should have stood and everton won 1-0-his name was Graham poll -but thats the pass and who cares now-am i wrong in thinking if the hooter goes-the game only finishes when the ball is dead or just thinking that-dont know


Fair dues Fish,

Last season everyone, me included was amazed at the time added on in the utd/city game at old trafford. We all remember Owen got winner. I thought the ref had made a total mess of it and should have blown earlier. Then the following day, Jim White on Sky Sports News did a live timing of the end of the game and they came to the conclusion the ref was RIGHT!
And the referees governor came out and agreed. Nothing is ever black and white. I believe referees make mistakes like any human being. What I CANNOT believe is that they are dishonest.

Every fan believes that the ref is against his/her team. But we have selective memories, we ignore the times we benefit for dubious decisions. And that isn't honest. No team gets more breaks than another despite the conspiracy theories about the top four.

[sakis27]

Not so long as the penalty was awarded before time ran out, you get me?
you can't count the time it takes to spot the ball and take the kick.

And mate, don't go calling someone a retard, especially unprovoked. I'm not right to call begbie a cunt (remember i said that), however we were having a heated debate.

Today, I haven't given you a cause to call me a retard. Let's play fair.
OK your wright i apologize but i still think he should had let the play go on then blow time. if it was man utd attacking and he blew time don't think you would be happy about it. you ether blow time in the middle of the ground or let the play finish.

[ruudboy]

OK your wright i apologize but i still think he should had let the play go on then blow time. if it was man utd attacking and he blew time don't think you would be happy about it. you ether blow time in the middle of the ground or let the play finish.


Apology accepted, however Sakis, I still have to point out that referees are instructed to blow time, when time is up irrespective of where the play is.

[Begbie]

I think it was Gary Player who said, 'The more I practise, the luckier I get'. :lol:

Sort of explains why the better teams are seen as having more luck.

[ruudboy]

I think it was Gary Player who said, 'The more I practise, the luckier I get'. :lol:

Sort of explains why the better teams are seen as having more luck.

That sums it up Begbie. I wish fans would be honest enough to admit that when their team was playing well and winning, they seemed to get the decisions. Liverpool, Rangers, Celtic and Man utd, in Britain have enjoyed more periods of success than most. But when they are in a quiet patch, their fans will tell you everything is against them. THey get so paranoid they even say that commentators are against them!!!!

[jamjars]

i would like to point out that neither team heard the whistle and the verton player carried on and MISSED anyway

[ruudboy]

Well, whatever, we got one point. I would have taken it before the game, with all that had gone on in the week off the pitch. roll on rangers next week. Great occasion for Scottish and english clubs to be playing each other in champs league

[stenelly]

OK your wright i apologize but i still think he should had let the play go on then blow time. if it was man utd attacking and he blew time don't think you would be happy about it. you ether blow time in the middle of the ground or let the play finish.
sorry i didnt see your apology. all sorted then

[Begbie]

Well, whatever, we got one point. I would have taken it before the game, with all that had gone on in the week off the pitch. roll on rangers next week. Great occasion for Scottish and english clubs to be playing each other in champs leagueJudging by Rangers' display today, you've got nothing to worry about. They were shocking.

[suzie]

absolutely fuming we have let another lead slip in the 90th minuate (fulham) it's all our fault can't blame the ref :x

[fishtoast]

Lets hope for extended highlights on match of the day etc [at 11 tonight or later once that stupid music thing finishes] for you and Especially tats-drives me mad conceeding 1 goal to draw/lose-ive never seen everton conceed 2 or cant remember us scoring 2 in injury time before today

[ruudboy]

Lets hope for extended highlights on match of the day etc [at 11 tonight or later once that stupid music thing finishes] for you and Especially tats-drives me mad conceeding 1 goal to draw/lose-ive never seen everton conceed 2 or cant remember us scoring 2 in injury time before today

The irony is Fish, we've done what you've done today, a thousand times. It is the sign of a very good team dynamic. Credit to Everton, kept plugging away. If you don't keep going, you get nowt. If you keep at it, you might get nothing, but you lose with no excuses. Everton will have a good season, no doubt

[fishtoast]

yep knew we scored quite a few goals in the last 1o mins last season might be more than other prem teams.still think we will have a good season -newcastle home next week,then our normally 100% lost to fulham at there ground a week later-we lose there normally-then vice/verse,just watching the game from today on the 50min highlights thing off sky till motd-something to watch

[ruudboy]

yep knew we scored quite a few goals in the last 1o mins last season might be more than other prem teams.still think we will have a good season -newcastle home next week,then our normally 100% lost to fulham at there ground a week later-we lose there normally-then vice/verse,just watching the game from today on the 50min highlights thing off sky till motd-something to watch


:lol: I can tell you about Fulham!!! They love fucking us up! It must be the translation of their Latin motto: "Fuck United up":lol:

[barry69922898]

Cant believe we have threw away 4 points in the last two games. Fair play to everton they kept going to the end. Still think fergie missed a trick not signing ozil or even van der vaart.

[ruudboy]

too early Barry!

we're doing okay, not lost a game, and could have had maximum points. Chelsea yet to have a hard game, and they will have. I'm happy with the squad we have and think we will be competitive. Away to Fulham and away to everton is as tough as it gets in consecutive away games. even if we threw away points, we might agree at end of season that they were good results

[deadlywill]

Credit to Everton's never say die attitude. They must be the best team outside the top 3 in my book - seems bizarre to see them down the bottom there but they'll get a win surely next week.

Sakis - regarding the penalty after time -

'John, in Law 14 there is a special provision to take a penalty kick if time has expired at the half or the end of the game. It is called additional time.
This is how it works: the referee blows for a penalty during active play. His precise timepiece tells him that full time has been reached, which of course includes injury time. At this point he does not 'end' the game but sets up the penalty kick. In addition to all the things he does he will inform the kicker and the goalie that it will be the final play of the half or game.
If the ref were to indicate that the half or game is over, first of all he would be wrong. The game is not over, it is now in additional time. Second, if he does 'end' the game by blowing the whistle before the kick is taken, the players will start to wonder off the field and they are not allowed to do that. Now the ref would have a big problem in trying to keep them on the field. Third, once the whistle is blown to indicate the end of the game theoretically the game is over and the referee cannot reverse that decision.'

[Tats]

Didnt see the game and have no intention of watching any highlights lol .Bar the footy and working ,had a fecking good night saturday .Now to clear my head and get ready for 2 shitty night shifts . Think fergies excuse for not playing rooney was pathetic to say the least ,every away game he plays hes gonna get shit so he better grow a set and stop whinging either that or sign for madrid the feckin muppet

[ruudboy]

Didnt see the game and have no intention of watching any highlights lol .Bar the footy and working ,had a fecking good night saturday .Now to clear my head and get ready for 2 shitty night shifts . Think fergies excuse for not playing rooney was pathetic to say the least ,every away game he plays hes gonna get shit so he better grow a set and stop whinging either that or sign for madrid the feckin muppet

I was very surprised myself, Shrek. Especially as the news was his young niece was critcally ill, a more compassionate reason for missing the game, yet Fergie said it was down to the abuse. Curiouser and curiouser:eek:

[deadlywill]

I was very surprised myself, Shrek. Especially as the news was his young niece was critcally ill, a more compassionate reason for missing the game, yet Fergie said it was down to the abuse. Curiouser and curiouser:eek:

...soccernet says it was because he is injured:eek:

[Tats]

...soccernet says it was because he is injured:eek:
his nob after coleen kicked him in it.

[stenelly]

his nob after coleen kicked him in it.
i hear she completely missed his knob and caught him fair and square in the balls :eek:

[ruudboy]

Members of parliament pay good money for that, not to mention barristers and many old public schoolboys

[stenelly]

Members of parliament pay good money for that, not to mention barristers and many old public schoolboys
plus a scouser who play for manc team :D

[sakis27]

Credit to Everton's never say die attitude. They must be the best team outside the top 3 in my book - seems bizarre to see them down the bottom there but they'll get a win surely next week.

Sakis - regarding the penalty after time -

'John, in Law 14 there is a special provision to take a penalty kick if time has expired at the half or the end of the game. It is called additional time.
This is how it works: the referee blows for a penalty during active play. His precise timepiece tells him that full time has been reached, which of course includes injury time. At this point he does not 'end' the game but sets up the penalty kick. In addition to all the things he does he will inform the kicker and the goalie that it will be the final play of the half or game.
If the ref were to indicate that the half or game is over, first of all he would be wrong. The game is not over, it is now in additional time. Second, if he does 'end' the game by blowing the whistle before the kick is taken, the players will start to wonder off the field and they are not allowed to do that. Now the ref would have a big problem in trying to keep them on the field. Third, once the whistle is blown to indicate the end of the game theoretically the game is over and the referee cannot reverse that decision.'
deadlywill

what i was saying is it wrong to let a team attack till the oppositions team's goal keeper and then blow time, if your going to let a them go all the way to the other end, then let the play finish, not blow as there taking a shot for goal bit unfair i think. and i just said if your going to do that you might as well blow time as a player is taking a penalty. it's just common sense i think.

[deadlywill]

deadlywill

what i was saying is it wrong to let a team attack till the oppositions team's goal keeper and then blow time, if your going to let a them go all the way to the other end, then let the play finish, not blow as there taking a shot for goal bit unfair i think. and i just said if your going to do that you might as well blow time as a player is taking a penalty. it's just common sense i think.

...i can see your point and in general i think that's what they do do - let the current attack go to goal once then stop it but i wouldn't know as i don't ref:D make a good ref me - 25 mins in stop play for beer :D

[ruudboy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/8994314.stm


BBC preview of Rangers game.

Boss unapologetic in todays press conference about leaving Rooney out on Saturday

[barry69922898]

I have to agree with sakis27, i always thought it was a general rule of thumb even if time was up to play out the attack and blow up when the ball is netural not as a team is about to have a shot on goal.

[stenelly]

i think fergie really got it wrong tonight,he so under estimated rangers defensive strategy. nine men behind the ball at all times. fair play to the gers they achieved what they set out to do.but if the gers don't produce the goods playing at home it will all be for nothing.in years to come who will remember a rangers draw at old trafford ?

[Tats]

biggest pile off shite ive watched in a while Rangers ARE shite and United were clueless .
Oh and Fergies tactics of trying to get both through are gonna backfire

[bazzer]

Shrek ,we were playing againt a team worth mega mils compared to us we came for a draw and got it away to utd .if yous cant break down a defence with a 40 year old in it thats utd,s fault ,we played to our strengths and came away with a point away from home ,im well happy with that ,not pretty to watch but we are not the only team thats defended at utd its part of football

[Tats]

still shite which ever way you look at it . Dunno about playing to strenghts lol playing boring football id call it tbh. Dont get me wrong United were utter shite . But would you pay good hard earned money to watch that utter crap ? And as were worth mega millions i wouldnt pay the useless muppets after tonights performance . Both teams fecking clueless .
Fergie used to play for you guys didnt he ?

[bazzer]

aye he did you can take the man out of govan ,but you cant take govan out the man ,hes a legend :lol:

[Tats]

can have the fucker back if ya want hes lost the plot .

[Begbie]

Shrek back on the pop?

[bazzer]

This is his last season get aff his back ,look at the good seasons yous have had because of the man ,anyways Suzie will have to change her sig :lol:

[Tats]

Shrek back on the pop?
yeah cheers

[Tats]

This is his last season get aff his back ,look at the good seasons yous have had because of the man ,anyways Suzie will have to change her sig :lol:
Get off his back? the tools got a job till hes 100+ hes lost it and should fook the hell off retire and shag Scottish goats for the rest of his days .

[Begbie]

Who have we got? Doctor Shrek or Mister Tats? :lol:

O/T Hope Saz is well.

[Tats]

Who have we got? Doctor Shrek or Mister Tats? :lol:

O/T Hope Saz is well.
Tats for now till some tit changes me name back or i get bored n fook of again and come back as some other arrogant git
O/T check pms in 2 mins begs

[deadlywill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hmH-YAZW64

[goodison]

Valencia likely to miss the rest of the season

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8999551.stm

Looked a terrible injury on the telly and one only hopes he comes back from it ... and doesn't do an Alan Smith/Eduardo and struggle to reach his top form again.

Best of luck for his recovery.

[glenman]

Ouch, best of luck to the lad.

[supasue]

I am absolutely gutted for Valencia and really fear for his future as a brilliant footballer. Man U will miss him dreadfully but my thoughts are with the lad that he makes a full recovery.

[Jchemwa]

I think we are getting ahead of ourselves here, its been only three games into the season, well Valencia's injury 's thrown in the proverbial spanner, but I think Berba will step up and carry us this season cos he knows this is his last chance to make us believe he's got the rite stuff for ManUtd. Ferguson should give the young lads like Obertan, macheda and Anderson now that he is back, a chance to grow. It's better to use them early in the season than later. :x

[supasue]

Ferguson should give the young lads like Obertan, macheda and Anderson now that he is back, a chance to grow. It's better to use them early in the season than later. :x 2 out of 3 aint bad! And I agree totally. Don't quite understand why Obertan & Macheda aren't given more opportunities but hey I would never question Fergie LOL Good result today and well done Berbatov :clap: Maybe we're finally seeing why Man U payed so much for him, how many seasons ago??!! :lol:

[Tats]

well the lazy bulgarian c**ts finally woke up haha , i for one never doubted the guy . Just in from work so cant wait for motd :) with beer

[fishtoast]

You went to work when a game like that is on,wouldnt have gone to work no matter what,footy is more important to me

[Tats]

Work = beer tokens for days off lol .

[manUdave]

Tonights match was poor to watch but the winning goal was a good un:lol::lol:

[deadlywill]

WTF was that rubbish last night. I can't remember a more boring game of football in a long time. That's my official excuse for falling asleep in my chair last night. Awful.

[tjl]

I'm begining to think that some or all the players on Saturday thought it was going to be easy,well judging by the first half they didn't bother to play at all,but credit to Sunderland it looked they came out to try an win it which almost they did,again a poor display from the middle and front lads the only saving grace was the back looked secure enough,two weeks to sort it Fergs,I'm not liking the fact that Shity are above us,mind you seeing Livershite in the bottom three made this weekend more enjoyable

[deadlywill]

We'd get pantsed by city if we were to play them now - be 4 or 5 nil.

[goodison]

Anderson hints at wanting to leave ManYoo and return to Porto

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=831951&sec=transfers&cc=4716

[tjl]

Fook him off A.S.A.P another dejemba x2 never was/will be good enough to wear the RED

[ruudboy]

can´t wait for game tomorrow afternoon, hate the internationals. I´d love to see Bebe get a run tomorrow at some stage, and it´s great news that Owen Hargreaves may play, apparently the tackles have been flying in in the games he´s been playing with the young lads at carrington and the knees are looking good.

[fishtoast]

can´t wait for game tomorrow afternoon, hate the internationals. I´d love to see Bebe get a run tomorrow at some stage, and it´s great news that Owen Hargreaves may play, apparently the tackles have been flying in in the games he´s been playing with the young lads at carrington and the knees are looking good.Can see a man utd 3-0 win,as i say a million times i hate internationals as proved again this week by getting 3 off our players injured for a month or more-bloody internationals bloody hate them so pointless

[elftone1]

Dont know if anyone has mentioned it on here but there is paper talk that man utd are looking at allan mcgregor the rangers goalie

[ruudboy]

I don´t see enough of the scottish games to have an opinion on Mcgregor, It looks like Tomas kuczak is not ever going to get a proper chance then.

theres been talk in spain for a while that iker casillas has decided to try life abroad. He said recently that unlike the legendary Raoul, he fancied testing hismself in another league while he was still in his prime. In spain though, he doesn´t face the physicality that he would in England.

Anyhow I feel sorry for kuczak.

[manUdave]

can´t wait for game tomorrow afternoon, hate the internationals. I´d love to see Bebe get a run tomorrow at some stage, and it´s great news that Owen Hargreaves may play, apparently the tackles have been flying in in the games he´s been playing with the young lads at carrington and the knees are looking good.

owens out injured. http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/45288/Fergie_Hargreaves_is_injured.aspx

[glenman]

Kucsak is as bad as the two numpties at Arsenal-think Utd will look elsewhere.

[mike81]

Hargreaves ruled out with knee calf injury.

[Begbie]

Hargreaves ruled out with knee calf injury. Overpriced and he's not got a leg to stand on.

[revolver]

Overpriced and he's not got a leg to stand on.

Maybe, but i still maintain that his performances in the double winning season were paramount to United finding glory. He might not come back, or if he does, not be the same player; but I honestly believe he holds a high place in United's history, if only in my eyes. And, really, that's all i care about! two freekicks, two goals. Who needs Beckham?

[mike81]

Maybe, but i still maintain that his performances in the double winning season were paramount to United finding glory. He might not come back, or if he does, not be the same player; but I honestly believe he holds a high place in United's history, if only in my eyes. And, really, that's all i care about! two freekicks, two goals. Who needs Beckham?


I'm with you squire, one of Fergies top signings, just massively unlucky.

[tjl]

Yet another two points given away by piss poor defending,what a turn over they should have been 4 goals in front before they scored I'm fookin guted by the shite start to the season and when you see Rooney a non starter and not up too much when he did come on makes me wonder if we will even make fourth spot this year,early doors yes but they have got to start putting it together sooner rather than later

[Tats]

Im looking on the bright side of things at least i had a good stream for it :)

[ruudboy]

Yeah Hargreaves was outstanding in 2008. Lets see what happens in next few weeks. If he doesn't play before mid November and play a few times, we can probably forget him. That would be a shame because he seems to be one of the games nicer characters.

[DerekM]

Rooney on his way? Thought he was careless with his statement about his injury.....nobody contradicts Fergie...!
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/football/news/article/-/8149858/fergies-rooney-snub-fuels-transfer-talk

[timg2705]

Hi everyone, just joined the site and wanted to air my views on the probelems which are starting to become evident at my beloved Man United. Whilst i have complete faith in the greatest manager british football has ever known i am starting to get a little concerned about some of the goings on at the club?
1. Why have we not got a ready made understudy for 40 yr old Van Der Sar to really push him?
2. What has happened to the form of Evra - following the world cup he is not the same player?
3. Is Ferdinand now too injury prone? and do we have good enough replacements with the likes of Smalling & Evans who need more time to develop.
4. Why is our midfield so reliant on 35 yr olds Scholes & Giggs and why have we not been preparing well in advance for the day when they retire. Have we got ready made replacements for these quality players?
5. If Scholes & Giggs are our 2 most influential players they will be unable to play 2 -3 games in a week so the team is constantly going to be changed so there is no continuity & consistency.
6. Why are tghere such bad lapses in concentration in games letting 2 goal leads slip not once but on at least 4 occasions so far this season.
7. Rooney - What is going on?, he has not been the same player since he returned from an ankle injury early at the end of last season. He was so poor for England in South Africa that he didn't warrant a place and Capello & Sir Alex are struggling to know how to get his head back in the right place. I must add also that Rooneys problems are also all of his own making & to challenge Sir Alex's authority is foolish at the best of times but when your form is poor is tantamount to career suicide. I hope and beleive we will come through this blip as we always do and Rooney will be back banging in the goals very soon, so we can start closing the gaop on City & Chelsea.

Anyone like to comment?

[Begbie]

Good first post. :thumbsup:

I've moved it to the Man U 2010/11 thread.

[deadlywill]

Hi everyone, just joined the site and wanted to air my views on the probelems which are starting to become evident at my beloved Man United. Whilst i have complete faith in the greatest manager british football has ever known i am starting to get a little concerned about some of the goings on at the club?
1. Why have we not got a ready made understudy for 40 yr old Van Der Sar to really push him?
2. What has happened to the form of Evra - following the world cup he is not the same player?
3. Is Ferdinand now too injury prone? and do we have good enough replacements with the likes of Smalling & Evans who need more time to develop.
4. Why is our midfield so reliant on 35 yr olds Scholes & Giggs and why have we not been preparing well in advance for the day when they retire. Have we got ready made replacements for these quality players?
5. If Scholes & Giggs are our 2 most influential players they will be unable to play 2 -3 games in a week so the team is constantly going to be changed so there is no continuity & consistency.
6. Why are tghere such bad lapses in concentration in games letting 2 goal leads slip not once but on at least 4 occasions so far this season.
7. Rooney - What is going on?, he has not been the same player since he returned from an ankle injury early at the end of last season. He was so poor for England in South Africa that he didn't warrant a place and Capello & Sir Alex are struggling to know how to get his head back in the right place. I must add also that Rooneys problems are also all of his own making & to challenge Sir Alex's authority is foolish at the best of times but when your form is poor is tantamount to career suicide. I hope and beleive we will come through this blip as we always do and Rooney will be back banging in the goals very soon, so we can start closing the gaop on City & Chelsea.

Anyone like to comment?

1. There are a few good goalies in the premiership that we will more than likely poach come next transfer window. Van der Sar doesn't have many bad games and he can still pull off great saves although his weekend performance was ridiculously bad. Getting on a bit now though so i don't expect him to play forever.
2. Not sure about Evra - seems that the man is just pure and simply out of form as you suggest. It happens to every sportsman at some point in an extended career. This current team is not working well together at the moment and he might well be a player that plays like those around him which at the moment is poorly. The world cup was a huge disaster for him and probably dented his pride no end.
3. Smalling not sure - Jonny Evans has had enough time now to be honest. We've been smashed by injuries at the back for a while, patching things together. If we get settled with injuries and get a few games in with a set back three he should put in some good performances.
4. and 5. Scholes and Giggs? Well how to replace them? They are class players still at their age. We'll be buying again there as i'm not sure Anderson's up for it.
6. I'm sure that because of the international breaks alot of teams have been playing poorly. It's pissed me off no end. It stops any momentum, team building, run on, goal scoring etc - let the competition run each week in my book. When internationals are on just replace those in your team on international duty with youngsters and get on with it - that's what they do here for Rugby League and it works very well. That might in turn give the lesser teams a chance to even out the competition a bit as well.
7. I'm not certain that Rooney has challenged Sir Alex in any way other than in the press. The ankle thing is nothing really. The manager lies all the time to protect his players as Wenger has also come out this week and stated. He just doesn't look that interested at the moment to me and perhaps Fergie is right in not starting him. Nani is scoring. Berba is not after a good start. Fergie needs to put a rocket up them at half time as they are coming back out half asleep.

[garychandler123]

united fans must get behind fergie over the rooney issue,no player is bigger than united.

[jake robinson]

Something strange going on there when they are contradicting each other publicly. Good to see Fergie not take any crap though, think he is probably fed up with rooneys private life affecting his game and the team as a whole.

[Begbie]

YES! Let him go. :lol:

http://i51.tinypic.com/f1b9dx.jpg

[stenelly]

YES! Let him go. :lol:

http://i51.tinypic.com/f1b9dx.jpg

ha ha ha, nice one beggs

[imperial109]

We all know that no player is bigger than the club but the same can be said of managers. This will be the second high profile player at United to fall out with Fergie over their private lives and maybe the board will feel that its a strange coincidence.

Another question that you need to ask is can United afford to lose Rooney? You can't help but think that the money raised by his departure would just service the debt at the club and they may not replace him, the same that they never really replaced Ronaldo. So when you look at the squad you will have Giggs and Scholes, who are both due to retire and will need replacing, and Berbatov, who we all know blows blisteringly hot or freezing cold. So a team of Man Utd stature will have good players, but no one world class. United are quickly falling into the trap of being a Liverpool and being a one player club.

But no doubt the press being the press, this is just a storm in a tea cup.

[jamjars]

Kucsak is as bad as the two numpties at Arsenal-think Utd will look elsewhere.

i don't get this opinion, show me where he has made massive mistakes?? i think he's good

[Tats]

so its official Rooney wants to leave United , Tosser

[snappie]

He's probably not gettng what he wants per week, so he'll bugger off to City where he'll be paid loads.

[Tats]

He's probably not gettng what he wants per week, so he'll bugger off to City where he'll be paid loads.

think thats where the problem is now his Mrs has found out

[revolver]

There were reports suggesting that his agent advised Rooney that his persona and general personality would not see him find a career after football so he should get all the money he can.

I don't particularly mind him going, what i DO mind is if we see another instance of the Ronaldo and Tevez saga where two of our most talented and promising players were allowed to leave with £80m in the bank and no one came in to replace them. And i really don't care what Fergies opinion of Benzema is, he has failed to make a success in Madrid and is not worth a Wayne Rooney. United need, in my opinion at least 5 very good players.

But i fear whatever fee is paid for Rooney it will only go as far as the bank. Too many good players have slipped through the cracks now. Something needs to addressed or i can see United's glory days only existing in the past.

[stuben1980]

Aggree with that Rev.Think the glazers will take the biggest price they can get .No matter who its from EVEN Man City.And Fergie will see about as much of the fee as he did the Ronaldo transfer money.And when you look at a few more of there squad IE Giggs, Scholes, Van Der Sar ,Rio and Berbatov.They certainly need a few more players if there going to keep up with Chelsea and Man City

[revolver]

I just hope Vidic doesn't decide it's time to go as well. Rooney will be a huge loss, but Vidic has been a fucking godsend. Without him saving our arses (except for in the Liverpool games...) i think we can say hello to the battle for fourth next season.

edit: My 1900th post. Where's my cake and hookers?

[glenman]

i don't get this opinion, show me where he has made massive mistakes?? i think he's good
I don't remember all the games but there was a howler in a League Cup game and he also did one or two in the League.

[barry69922898]

I knew this was coming, rooney has been acting the complete bell-end to fergie and united ever since his alleged leading role in manchester's version of pretty woman. I say take the 75-80 mill and good riddance. Hes on the verge of becoming the new gazza in my opinion. I really hope fergie benches him the rest of the season and re-builds in the summer with the ronaldo and rooney money with 5 quality proven players. Personally i feel he missed a trick with ozil and van der vaart as there the postions we are lacking at the min. Sad about hargreaves too, anyone who watched him during the double season will know he was a major cog of the midfield, especially the champs league final. Hopefully he will be back.

[megansdad]

We all know that no player is bigger than the club but the same can be said of managers. This will be the second high profile player at United to fall out with Fergie over their private lives and maybe the board will feel that its a strange coincidence.

Another question that you need to ask is can United afford to lose Rooney? You can't help but think that the money raised by his departure would just service the debt at the club and they may not replace him, the same that they never really replaced Ronaldo. So when you look at the squad you will have Giggs and Scholes, who are both due to retire and will need replacing, and Berbatov, who we all know blows blisteringly hot or freezing cold. So a team of Man Utd stature will have good players, but no one world class. United are quickly falling into the trap of being a Liverpool and being a one player club.

But no doubt the press being the press, this is just a storm in a tea cup.still they will have to go some to be the new kilmarnock wont they??;)

[megansdad]

I knew this was coming, rooney has been acting the complete bell-end to fergie and united ever since his alleged leading role in manchester's version of pretty woman. I say take the 75-80 mill and good riddance. Hes on the verge of becoming the new gazza in my opinion. I really hope fergie benches him the rest of the season and re-builds in the summer with the ronaldo and rooney money with 5 quality proven players. Personally i feel he missed a trick with ozil and van der vaart as there the postions we are lacking at the min. Sad about hargreaves too, anyone who watched him during the double season will know he was a major cog of the midfield, especially the champs league final. Hopefully he will be back.75-80 mill?? what with a year left on his contract!
lucky to get 25 mill tops.
the players hold all the aces in football now not the clubs.
city could offer united what they like and double his wages,scary isnt it:eek:

[barry69922898]

Yeah very true but, i can see man city bidding in january and money is no object with them too. If he leaves united, thats the only destination in my opinion with the rumoured 300k a week wages. Also if the storey below is true id gladly take him.


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/158949/Fernando-Torres-to-replace-Wayne-Rooney-/

[fishtoast]

The funny thing is i think what would happen that if he went to city [which i dont think he will],he would still not play every game the way he always wants to be picked 1st choice etc as they have to many players even tho he could be classed as the best of them,which would then lead to arugents with the boss i think anyway.

[snappie]

The Independent is saying he can buy out his contract next summer for 5mil.

[Begbie]

Something about some European rule?

[barry69922898]

I thought it was only players over 28 and had a year left on their contracts. Fergie sould sell him in january and give the little pea a run of games.

[snappie]

Link to article
http://www.independent.co.uk/s...y-1635m-2110324.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/rooney-could-quit-united-for-only-1635m-2110324.html)

[Tats]

As my mate has just pointed out to me , United knew in August that he wanted to leave but failed to tell anyone over fear of season ticket holders no renewing .
Wether thats true i dunno

[stenelly]

help
hey sten, all the footie correspondents are at games, need someone to talk to me at 7.40pm london time re wayne. i´ll mention the site and we can talk about the reaction to it in general. You up for it? If not Begbie?

i´m at *************

cheers

richie

dose anyone fancy going on the radio to talk with ruud about rooney,
pm or whisper your phone number in chatroom to me . i need to know asap

[jake robinson]

"Ferguson said the "door is still open" for Rooney, who will miss Wednesday's Champions League game with Bursaspor after being carried off in training. The forward suffered minor ankle damage at the end of the session and will sit out the European tie at Old Trafford."
off bbc website, how ironic is that.

[bazzer]

Fergie is only putting a face on ,hes away i would not be suprised if he never plays for utd again

[Toffeepop]

Rooney has himself to blame. He courts the media when him and his stupid thick wife get married, ahve a kid, need to sell somthing then moan when the pressure get's too much. He has gone off and shagged prostitutes, been caught smoking outside a bar, the bloke is a fucking idiot and is disrespecting those that pay his £100,000 a week wages. The little fucking cunt should remember how lucky he is. I have absolutly no sympathy for him whatsoever, everything he has done he has brought it on himself. If he goes abroad i bet everything I own he will be in trouble again within a year. He is surrounded by bad people, is a liability to himself and really if he wasn't so good Fergie would have got rid ages ago like he did Stamm, keane, van nistelroy etc.

Rooney, FUCK. OFF.

[adam_ayres1988]

I'd love to be on the radio, but I'm rather ill at the moment :lol:

[megansdad]

maybe rooney will go to city as hes in need of kissing another badge fix.
he can kiss my arse for all i care.
then after all that he will probably end up at goodison park where all the evertonians will be kissing his again!!:lol:

[Tats]

Roy hodgson '' Waynes defintly coming '' 5 minutes later it was pissing down with rain

[stenelly]

Fergie's empire's crumbling, and Rooney wants to go,
he said he wants man city,but bobby told him no.
fuck off back to everton.or film another shrek,
if i see you in a city shirt ill break your fucking neck.
so go out banging prostitutes or back to robbing cars.
but if you think you're going to Eastlands, you can kiss my fucking arse

[fishtoast]

I think who ever offers Rooney 250 grannies a week will get a deal myself-he had everything

[imperial109]

I think there is still more to come out of this yet. Obviously there has been a falling out over the summer, or might have been Wayne was hoping that some major players would have been brought to the club over the summer but didn't arrive and he has become disheartened I don't know, but to go from wanting to be at the club for the rest of his career to wanting to leave, there has been something that has gone seriously wrong.

I think some of the reaction from the fans has been a bit harsh. Everyone saying he is shit and he should go, it wasn't too long ago that Rooney was running that team for the majority of the second half of last season and was keeping Man Utd in the title hunt. I can't see who Utd will turn to after January because I can't see the transfer money going back into transfers but would rather go to service the debt, as the Ronaldo money did. Scholes and Giggs are on their last legs and Berbatov looks stressed out with Rooney on the park yet alone having to hold the front time himself.

I am seriously and honestly starting to worry about the future of Utd, they are close to being another Liverpool soon, and with the debt of the club I can't help but think they could be in serious danger in 4-5 years time. When all the Chinese fans that Utd have start going Sky Blue (fans can be fickle at times) a big chunk of the Global support will go with it once United cannot afford to buy the big names then less money will be coming in the pay those debts. But I suppose we will just have to wait and see.

[revolver]

help
hey sten, all the footie correspondents are at games, need someone to talk to me at 7.40pm london time re wayne. i´ll mention the site and we can talk about the reaction to it in general. You up for it? If not Begbie?

i´m at *************

cheers

richie

dose anyone fancy going on the radio to talk with ruud about rooney,
pm or whisper your phone number in chatroom to me . i need to know asap

I wouldn't have minded being the voice of FSi, wish i'd seen this! Although i've been drinking so i might have rabbited on.

Anyway, I think it has kinda sunk in a bit and i do feel really disappointed by this. I always saw Rooney as a United player for life. I always had suspicions and hopes that Ronaldo would want away as i felt he hindered the team overall through their reliance on him.

But Rooney, probably being english and the fact he was the first of the new breed, just seemed to fit the United mould. His commitment and work rate always surpassed his lack of goals in the first few years and he seemed to embody the never-say-die attitude that United had but, maybe like him, I don't see that anymore.

And i hate to even bring it up, but the lack of British players at United must be a factor. I was always most proud of the fact that United had so many British and Irish players as I feel they not only love the club, but fight for it. And Rooney really embodied that entire mantra. When he goes, United lose the heart and soul; and if this season is anything to go by already he has already given up that part of his game - and honestly, looking at how the team played after going 2-2 at the weekend I can't see a reason for him to stay if he is the only one who will put his heart on the line. Giggs and Scholes do, but they're too old to be doing this in a team averaging 26.

I no longer see the attitude and commitment that made United, maybe not in the early 90's but at least from 1997 onwards, the team that always gave it all and got the result. Now i see players who don't gel and go for personal glory. Playing for Man United is not a privilege, it's a duty. They should honour the history and success of those who built the foundations they stand on and Rooney has seen enough good players go, and remaining players not uphold that statute for him to want to throw in the towel. And he has done so.

Rooney will never be to blame if this is the ultimate start to United's empire crumbling, it will be the shocking way the club has been pimped out and raped. The Glaziers' aren't solely to blame. It was a ticking time bomb and maybe the final count down has now begun.

[imperial109]

Rooney will never be to blame if this is the ultimate start to United's empire crumbling, it will be the shocking way the club has been pimped out and raped. The Glaziers' aren't solely to blame. It was a ticking time bomb and maybe the final count down has now begun.

I can't see Rooney being blamed for this, maybe he has seen the warning signs and thought, " If I want more trophies, I would be better elsewhere".

I think its been a combination of things, the Glaziers' saddling the club with massive debt has obviously been a factor in the players that Fergie has been able to bring in. But Fergie has also wasted a lot of money on average players (Anderson, Valencia, Bebe, Smalling). To be perfectly honest these aren't the players you would expect United to be bringing in especially when the yids are signing Van Der Vanny Vaart and Modric for relatively average money. You maybe even able to argue the fact the Fergie hasn't really managed to deal with the big stars of United well at all, when you look at Stam, Nistlehorse, Beckham, Ronaldo and now Rooney all leaving because of Fergie, man management may not be Fergies strong point here.

[glenman]

Rooney has himself to blame. He courts the media when him and his stupid thick wife get married, ahve a kid, need to sell somthing then moan when the pressure get's too much. He has gone off and shagged prostitutes, been caught smoking outside a bar, the bloke is a fucking idiot and is disrespecting those that pay his £100,000 a week wages. The little fucking cunt should remember how lucky he is. I have absolutly no sympathy for him whatsoever, everything he has done he has brought it on himself. If he goes abroad i bet everything I own he will be in trouble again within a year. He is surrounded by bad people, is a liability to himself and really if he wasn't so good Fergie would have got rid ages ago like he did Stamm, keane, van nistelroy etc.

Rooney, FUCK. OFF.
Stop sitting on the fence and give us your true opinion!

[revolver]

I can't see Rooney being blamed for this, maybe he has seen the warning signs and thought, " If I want more trophies, I would be better elsewhere".

I think its been a combination of things, the Glaziers' saddling the club with massive debt has obviously been a factor in the players that Fergie has been able to bring in. But Fergie has also wasted a lot of money on average players (Anderson, Valencia, Bebe, Smalling). To be perfectly honest these aren't the players you would expect United to be bringing in especially when the yids are signing Van Der Vanny Vaart and Modric for relatively average money. You maybe even able to argue the fact the Fergie hasn't really managed to deal with the big stars of United well at all, when you look at Stam, Nistlehorse, Beckham, Ronaldo and now Rooney all leaving because of Fergie, man management may not be Fergies strong point here.

I don't quite see it that way in terms of the players;

Valencia was very good last season, he was (correct me if i'm wrong) United's top assister and was red hot in preseason - and even so, hasn't been given and chance. Anderson shows real signs of potential, if his attitude changes. He puts in a good shift and worried defences and was less than 10m. Bebe and Smalling are unknown quantities; less than a few months at the club and even less games to qualify for criticism.

In terms of players sold; Beckham was, in my opinion, a stupid sell - yeah 25m was good and bought Ronaldo who sold for 80m, but he was unique in his ability. Fergie has said Stam was let go too soon but he did fail a drugs test soon after, Van Nistelrooy didn't ever find his United form away from Old Trafford. Ronaldo wanted out, he wasn't a team player and as i said, brought in 80m (where it went... who knows) but Rooney is a cataclysmic loss. No doubt around that.

Fact is you're not wrong. Fergie has bought badly in his time, but so has every manager. He has sold poorly though, and for (what i see as bad reasons) Beckham, i already mentioned. Forlan for wearing the wrong boots. Pique - no idea.

Truth is, I have questions about Fergies reign and his success - i do feel he had it easy with youth in the mid 90's, and spending power in the early 00's. But i really feel Fergie was just as shocked as everyone else that Rooney wants out.

(Truth is, an Arsenal fan can quite rightly question signings and sales... Wenger is a fucking genuis.)

[tjl]

Its all about money he stalled his contract talks in August and roughly he's using the old pay me or I'm off ploy.

[goodison]

If/When he is sold, will the Glazers give the money to Fergie to spend or dump it towards the debt as they did with Ronaldo's fee?

It's a tricky situation for the Glazers ... Rooney, especially after Ronaldo left, has very much become the marketing darling for ManYoo and they will need to replace him fast. Asia is their biggest market and ALL posters for United feature Rooney (usually on his own) ... not Berbatov, not Scholes, not Giggs (though granted in the 90s, it was Giggs, with Cantona and Beckham), not Hernandez and certainly not Bum-fluff beard Neville .. and to maintain their top ranked marketing base here, they certainly need a new marketing darling and fast

However, they've lumped the club with so much debt, they'll have their creditors demanding the transfer fee to be paid to them.

But he's never going to command the ridiculous 50-80million the press seem to think he's worth (even on a newly signed 5 year contract, no club would be stupid enough to offer 80 million for him - except possibly Citeh, but they're idiots anyway with money). So, for example, they get 30-35 million for him .. who the hell can they sign as a replacement with the same marketing potential, as well as talismanic potential?

[deadlywill]

Roy hodgson '' Waynes defintly coming '' 5 minutes later it was pissing down with rain

lmfao....my slow brain didn't get that till today. Nice one :D

[goodison]

Reports: Rooney injured by Scholes tackle

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6454923,00.html

Can't decide if Scholes was maybe trying to tell Rooney to show some respect ... or it was one of Scholes trademark genuine craptastic tackles

Either way, Fergie won't be lying for sure when he says Rooney is injured :lol:

[revolver]

Reports: Rooney injured by Scholes tackle

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6454923,00.html

Can't decide if Scholes was maybe trying to tell Rooney to show some respect ... or it was one of Scholes trademark genuine craptastic tackles

Either way, Fergie won't be lying for sure when he says Rooney is injured :lol:

Quoted as it's shorter...

The reason Rooney will be worth the 35-45m range is because there are only a handful, maybe 2 or 3, who can finance that kind of sale. And all of those clubs will want Rooney's signature before he enters the last year as noone will sign him until he becomes free and then he can go anywhere.

Whether it's City, Madrid or Chelsea, they will want him in NOW, they don't wanna wait for his fee to drastically drop in his last year and then a team like Barcelona walk into the equation.

Either way, if his fee is going to be absorbed by the club I can't see anything outside of a swap deal, probably for Benzema.

[ruudboy]

I think some of us are blowing things a little out of proportion. As has been said to me quite a few times since yesterday, we've seen this sort of thing before. Rooney has become the next in a long line of top players that will be moving on for one reason or another. He's been terrific for us in the nearly six years we have had him, but maybe it's time to trust our manager. I get sick and tired of the critiscism he gets (i'm not talking about on this site btw) Does anyone remeber 04,05,and '06 when many so called United fans were calling for his head and saying he was finished as Chelsea and Arsenal were looking better than us. He was hammered for selling van nistlerooy, probably the greatest finisher we've had since Dennis Law. We then won three leagues on the spin and the champs league as well, not to mention reaching an fa cup final and winning the league cup twice. And did someone mention the world club??

Come on, whatever the financial state of United is, we will always attract the best players. I think he has made some shrewd buys. Hernandez looks the dogs, there's no doubt about it. He's going to be a very big player for United, as will Chris Smalling. The little I have seen of him for Fulham and us, he's looked good, confident. He will become a top player working with rio and vidic. As will jonny evans and his brother Cory by the way. Darren Gibson will mature and become a top player. Remember Darren Fletcher? The stick he took in the first 2-3 seasons he played for us. Would you swap him now? Not a chance, Fletch is the best defensive midfield player in the business.
The Valencia injury ws awful, but he will be bcak again strong next season. Nani just gets better and better. Evras form is temporary.

There is an argument to be made that we need a creative midfielder. Ok, of course we do, scholes is in the autumn of his playing career. However, where are the crative midfielders? First of all there are not too many, good enough to play for us and the others are all at other top clubs. We're talking serious money.

Another thing that bugs the shit out of me;

why do some united fans think they have a divine right to win every game and win the league every year? Teams like Spurs, Everton and to a certain extent Aston Villa have closed the gap on the so called big teams. Look at blackpool and WBA coming up and having a right go at everyone they play. I thought we had a great season last term. Lost league by one point, won league cup and despite a brilliant performance by us against bayern, we were unlucky to go out of champs league on away goals.

It's obvious we need to rebuild to a certain extent. With heroes like edwin, giggs, gary and scholesy coming closer to the end, it's important that we realise we cannot win major trophies every year. There are other huge clubs equally desperate to win those competitions. Rather than be depressed at wayne wanting away, I choose to celebrate Vidic signing a deal, Nani wants to sign extension, the evans brothers want to commit the next five years to us. The future is pretty rosy. And while I'm on the subject of Jonny Evans, give him a break. It happens to every young player who has had a prolonged run, they usually have a dip and look uncertain. It's a sign that he is becoming more aware of the responsibility on him. He'll play through it. We will regard him in time as one of the top defenders in the world. Saving us millions by the way.

In short, there's very little wrong at our club. Ok so we've drawn all our away games!! So what? In those games United were terrific, with the exception of sunderland obviously. They will get more ruthless as the season goes on. Watch Nani, and Chicharito fill their boots. And wayne's not going anywhere til next summer. I think he has a strong enough character to finish on a real high.

Thanks for reading.

[deadlywill]

When's your second book come out mate lol...

[mike81]

Agree with everything you said Ruudness. Rooney won't be missed, Berbatov will be the new main man and Chicharito looks likely to be a hit. Onwards and upwards I say. Let Rooney rot in the reserves for the rest of the season, then see who will match his wage demands.

[bazzer]

When's your second book come out mate lol...
Accie was in chat last night , if he logs on and reads Ruud Spiellberg we,ll have a ten page reply hahaha ,welcome back Accie :lol:

[adam_ayres1988]

Shrek reckons Man utd do not meet his ambitions (story (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6456970,00.html))

Granted Man utd haven't splashed the millions like other's have recently, but come on Man utd are always fighting for (and often achieving one or more of the following) the premiership, champions league, fa cup and even carling cup.

I reckon Jose will/has offer(ed) him some sexy Spanish granny poontang :lol:

[imperial109]

Shrek reckons Man utd do not meet his ambitions (story (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6456970,00.html))

Granted Man utd haven't splashed the millions like other's have recently, but come on Man utd are always fighting for (and often achieving one or more of the following) the premiership, champions league, fa cup and even carling cup.

I reckon Jose will/has offer(ed) him some sexy Spanish granny poontang :lol:

I think Rooney has been quoted as saying that he wants to go to Juventus. Well he does love an Old Lady.

[Begbie]

I think Rooney has been quoted as saying that he wants to go to Juventus. Well he does love an Old Lady.
Nice. :lol:

[revolver]

I think Rooney has been quoted as saying that he wants to go to Juventus. Well he does love an Old Lady.

Zing!

Sell Rooney, acquire Bale. I hope Fergie reads this.

[mike81]

Zing!

Sell Rooney, acquire Bale. I hope Fergie reads this.

I've PM'd him your request.

[megansdad]

[quote=imperial109;188212]I think Rooney has been quoted as saying that ormer Liverpool and England striker Robbie Fowler has light-heartedly claimed that Wayne Rooney is thinking over the possibility of joining him at Perth Glory.

Rooney has confirmed that he wants to leave Manchester United after questioning the club's ambition and as a result he has been linked with Manchester City, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Barcelona.

But Fowler has revealed that he recently chatted with ex-Everton star Rooney and, with tongue-in-cheek, he thinks that the England striker could be tempted by a move to Australia.

Fowler said on the Glory's official website: "Everyone knows I went home (and) it's probably only just come out lately about Wayne Rooney, but being in the football know, I found out a couple of weeks ago (that he wanted to leave Manchester United).

"I just had to come home and see if he'd be interested in coming to Perth.

"The signs were good. I was really pleased with the chat we had and we'll see where it takes us.
Umming and ahhing

"I sold it to him and told him what a lovely place it is.

"I told him what I think about the city and he knows obviously all about a lot of the players.

"He's umming and ahhing at the minute, but it's looking good. He's very, very interested so watch this space."

Perth's deputy chairman, Lui Giuliani, said the idea was not as laughable as some may think.

"Well if, and it's a big 'If', Wayne Rooney was out of contract, and Robbie Fowler could pull some strings we would love to have him at Perth Glory even as a guest," he said.

"If I said four years ago that Robbie Fowler would be playing for Perth Glory, I'm sure many people would have had a laugh."
It's simple really, I'm too good to be on the bench.

so there it is rooney for perth glory:D

[Begbie]

Zing!

Sell Rooney, acquire Bale. I hope Fergie reads this.You can't afford him.

[goodison]

30 fans removed from protesting outside Rooney's house

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6459291,00.html

Pathetic. Seriously pathetic. Like protesting outside his house is going to make him think "oh hello, I better stay then".

[revolver]

Anyone else see Ian Holloway going mental?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9116212.stm

[Burdock]

I like him a lot. Good character and a good manager.

I like the idea of your house 'toddling off' after 24 years. :lol:

[imperial109]

I think some of this is being well blown out of proportion. Rooney has said, a year and a half before his latest contract ends, that he will not be signing another contract. Giving Utd plenty of time to 1. Get some money for him or 2. If they want to gamble, have 18 months to change his mind. Now Rooney could have been a right cunt and strung Utd along for 18 months before sodding off but he hasn't.

And for all that I also like Ian Holloway, this problem between Fergie and Rooney is none of his business and shouldn't even be seen taking sides. The way he was going on in the end up you would have thought Rooney had raped his dog.

[Tats]

how do you know he hasnt ?

[mike81]

The way he was going on in the end up you would have thought Rooney had raped his dog.

I take it you missed the papers today then! :lol:

[adam_ayres1988]

I take it you missed the papers today then! :lol:

:lol: A while ago I used to do that sort of thing for giggles. Here's (http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/Adam_Ayres1988/Jonrapesbadger.jpg) an example.

[glenman]

I take it you missed the papers today then! :lol:
Only if she was an old bitch.

[tjl]

I refer back to my last post on the Roony saga that it was a ploy to get more money out of the club,but I am stumped as to why he did it the way he did,the guy is a prat along with his advisors

[glenman]

I refer back to my last post on the Roony saga that it was a ploy to get more money out of the club,but I am stumped as to why he did it the way he did,the guy is a prat along with his advisors
Dead right TJL, and the sad thing is most football supporters are thick as fook/don't care if you are playing well and so forgive these pricks who the fans are giving in one week what they pay for a house. Most footballers need a big dose of reality which they aren't going to get, unfortunately.

[mike81]

Think he'll still go in January / summer, but now for a few million more. Good work Fergie.

[Burdock]

Aye, Ferguson is nobody's fool.... Houllier let the contracts of both McManaman and Owen run down, whist 'negotiating' with their agents... the club lost out big time on both occasions.

[tjl]

Sorry Mike but I think Fergie wont make the same mistake as he did with Staam who (Fergie admitted was a mistake selling him on on after his book allegation)but then who knows what can happen in the future,it will be interesting to see the Fans reaction to the debacle on Sunday at Stoke and the Stokies reaction to try and wind us up

[David636]

Sorry Mike but I think Fergie wont make the same mistake as he did with Staam who (Fergie admitted was a mistake selling him on on after his book allegation)but then who knows what can happen in the future,it will be interesting to see the Fans reaction to the debacle on Sunday at Stoke and the Stokies reaction to try and wind us up

MY reaction right now, is to tell Mr Rooney to either Book up or ship out! he has a legion of fans and his latest childish episode is a direct snub to the fans of the club and to his personal fans.:x

[tjl]

MY reaction right now, is to tell Mr Rooney to either Book up or ship out! he has a legion of fans and his latest childish episode is a direct snub to the fans of the club and to his personal fans.:x

Couldn't agree with you more Dave,what he said re his team mates will make for a chilly dressing room unless they are more of a man(collectively)than he was and forgive is outburst as a child that as a tantrum and throws is toys out of the pram,just on his present form a few managers would have stuck him him the stiffs big name or not,and as for the remark that inferred ambition,with which Club did he get his present medal tally there is a good number of players in the same league as him that would give their right arm for half of what he as got,thanks to United, it was always about money with his new contract but fook'en hell that wasn't the way to go about it,again it will be interesting to see and hear the fans reaction at Stoke tomorrow that is if he plays?

[mike81]

Anyone else think he's peeked too soon? Can't help but think he's the new Norman Whiteside.

[Begbie]

Anyone else think he's peeked too soon? Can't help but think he's the new Norman Whiteside.The new Norman Wisdom? :lol:

http://i51.tinypic.com/jpipvp.jpg

[Jchemwa]

I think Fergie should have let Wayne go. United always bounce back from such losses. probably be sold next summer now that he has signed a new deal and UTD can cash up on his value!

[goodison]

Shock: Owen out with another hamstring injury

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_6470899,00.html

Perhaps it really is time for little Mickey to move into coaching ... is it really worth it for ManYoo to pay him wages for the maximum 8 games a year he plays?

[fishtoast]

Sounds just perfect for our injury hit list does owen,never out for a week always a lifetime

[goodison]

Michael Owen drops retirement hint

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=836805&sec=england&cc=4716

He's semi-retired anyway .... :?

[imperial109]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87R4TU0Ho3g

30 seconds into the clip.

[big dan]

Owen has had that much injuries he might as well retire

[ruudboy]

I think it's a myth. He's said himself he hs been nearly always available for us, and he's scored whenever we have played him, maybe he should play more often?

Bebe looked good the other night, would love to see him on the bench tomorrow against Spurs. We definately caught a glimpse of what is still really, a raw talent.

[tjl]

As far as Bebe is concerned a raw talent indeed but still a natural talent that can only improve as he stays at United as for M O yes he should have had more starts but he as been dogged with injurys that much that he as become his own worst enemy which is a shame as he as done well since becoming a Utd player

[goodison]

Rooney out for longer than expected

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/9138610.stm

Or is Fergie allowing Rooney time to save his marriage and/or saving him from the possible backlash from fans?

[fishtoast]

Rooney out for longer than expected
Or is Fergie allowing Rooney time to save his marriage and/or saving him from the possible backlash from fans?I Thought of that the minute i heard he is suppose to be out longer and tend to think this is the real reason.

[glenman]

Or....is never going to play for United again and be sold in Jan, or was the initial diagnosis by one of Arsenals doctors who get every recovery time wrong?

[kakapo_kid]

watching via ESPN...how fucking big a fucking cunt is fucking Waddle...why do they even let the cunt in the stadium???

[stenelly]

watching via ESPN...how fucking big a fucking cunt is fucking Waddle...why do they even let the cunt in the stadium???
can you remember younger people sometimes use these forums
:eek:

[Begbie]

can you remember younger people sometimes use these forums
:eek:Perhaps it would be better to remind people about this thread and method? (http://www.fsicrew.info/forums/swearing-on-the-forum-t15200.html)

FSi has had many 'robust' posts. The above link shows how to avoid 'swearies' if they are not wanted.

[kakapo_kid]

sorry chaps...football...beer...immense frustration with idiot pundit...multi-text conversation going on simultaneously...feel free to delete...

[glenman]

sorry chaps...football...beer...immense frustration with idiot pundit...multi-text conversation going on simultaneously...feel free to delete...
I agree with everything you said about Waddle though.

[deadlywill]

sorry chaps...football...beer...immense frustration with idiot pundit...multi-text conversation going on simultaneously...feel free to delete...

..Beer ? What's that? no one on here knows what this mysterious beer is ???

[revolver]

..Beer ? What's that? no one on here knows what this mysterious beer is ???

He must have meant bear. Common typo. I also find when I'm being harassed by bears I tend to mistype.

[tjl]

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[Begbie]

:scratch: WTFBanned him for :spam:

Also redirected his links to www.spamlink.com

[carlstream]

what a joke that we have no video official.

[fishtoast]

what a joke that we have no video official.It would be a joke if we had a video official,-he would slow everything down even tho you would have people saying it would take seconds etc to sort out certain situation out it wouldnt in most,only need goal line camera's thats all as ive said millions of times on here which should sort any goal over line shot quick

[ruudboy]

The boy Bebe is likely to play against wolves tomorrow, he gave their left back a tough time in the carling cup. I really like him and think he might just have that special something to become a top player.Looking forward to tomorrows games.