FSi no longer posting non-streamer sites

admin

16-05-2010, 09:08 PM

FSi will no longer post links from browser sites which do not have a history of streaming (at least a few) of their links. We thank the sites who have posted but regret that we can no longer post your links. There are 2 main reasons for this.

A number of FSi members have been complaining about the quality and availability of matches on embedded browser streams. They are fed up watching adverts and no streams.

It takes too long to post the embedded streams. FSi staff are spending up to 3 hours per day posting streams that originate from other streamers' sites. We should be expending our efforts in identifying the source and posting the source links thereafter.

There are several other reasons but that will do for now.

At present, our list of browser sites that will be posted is:

ATDHE
FIRST ROW
VIP BOX
DERBY HD
BEST-LIVE SPORT
ARTHUR STREAMS
UKTV SPORTS
FOOTV.EU
LIVESTREAMZ
LIVE-SPORT
SOULSSPORTS
VIP TV/MAGIC
KIWI/SILVER/NORWAY
QUIROZ
SPORTZ-FOR-FREE
FREEFOOTIE
TYKES TV
SUPER-SPORTZ
LEESTREAMS
VENTURE TV

If you believe that another site should be added or that one of the above should be excluded, please post.

We request that you do not PM Admin or Mods on this matter. Please post your thoughts here. A PM will probably result in a ban.

Begbie

30-07-2011, 10:40 PM

FSi announcement.

freesoccer

30-07-2011, 10:59 PM

Hi mate, Please add me to the list, because i'm working hard to put best links for matches. not just a one link. and i'm providing good quality highlights in FSI. Thanks

stenelly

30-07-2011, 11:26 PM

Hi mate, Please add me to the list, because i'm working hard to put best links for matches. not just a one link. and i'm providing good quality highlights in FSI. Thanks
All above names stream some content do you? I can find every stream you link.
I can even link the site you post for highlights.
Can you give any other reason why we should bother to re post links we have found just to give you a income. FSI IS A NONE PROFIT MAKING SITE. WHY SHOULD WE HELP YOU TO MAKE MONEY?

freesoccer

30-07-2011, 11:38 PM

All above names stream some content do you? I can find every stream you link.
I can even link the site you post for highlights.
Can you give any other reason why we should bother to re post links we have found just to give you a income. FSI IS A NONE PROFIT MAKING SITE. WHY SHOULD WE HELP YOU TO MAKE MONEY?

I'm not just do this for making money, if i need to keep my server running then i need money. I'm doing this live matches and highlights for every sports fans free.

stenelly

30-07-2011, 11:52 PM

I'm not just do this for making money, if i need to keep my server running then i need money. I'm doing this live matches and highlights for every sports fans free.

for free ? ok then take all adverts off your links then we will post them all. FSI IS ADVERT FREE. UNLIKE YOUR LINKS

freesoccer

30-07-2011, 11:59 PM

for free ? ok then take all adverts off your links then we will post them all. FSI IS ADVERT FREE. UNLIKE YOUR LINKS

ok i'll remove the ad which is on the video.

Begbie

31-07-2011, 12:06 AM

freesoccer

31-07-2011, 12:13 AM

Sorry. The decision has been made. Streaming sites only.

We realise that some browser sites are better than others but we have to draw a line in the sand. Unfortunately, some of the good ones are on the wrong side of that line.

I know what you are talking about mate, but I always tried to treat fans by providing good Live links and highlights. I really worked hard on that. :(

sportszone

31-07-2011, 03:20 AM

Sir,

What about having separate page(sub-main thread) or sub-section on current main page for non-streamers.Suppose that doesn't make any disturb to FSI viewers. That makes only more channel choices for FSI viewers.Mean while they have their right to decide whether they are going for channel with adverts or not?

* Sir I don't like to point-out this and that channels doing harmful things to FSI reputation.So please try to treat everyone from same spoon.

Thank you...

jake robinson

31-07-2011, 06:59 AM

Good call this, too many people jumping on to make money. Lots of people on here wont have the addons to stop all the money making adverts they have. There are so many good reliable links that work but I realise they still have to be found. This takes time of which linkfinders do it for free. All they get in return is people moaning about advert pop ups. If the streamers aren't working on their own sites then the ones who steal the streams and add adverts wont work anyway.
The guys on here do a fantastic job of supplying good working reliable links in their own time. I can only imagine how much time it takes to sort the good from the bad.
If members read and used the forums they will know which streams to use and rely on. A lot only use them to moan about these dodgy ones. It doesn't take long if you again use the forums to build a knowledge of if you like favourite links. Too many hit and runners on here who's only input is to moan.
just my two pence worth.

kieloo

31-07-2011, 07:28 AM

Obviously U are doing a great job , so Your brand is well-known and of course You want to become more and more regular. I was reading Your first post and thought that You are mostly complaining about amount of work. I don't know what are Your professions but when I came to FSi for the first time, I was shocked why there is no adverts. The simplest solutions are always the best. In my opinion, there are two options: You should introduce small charges for people who are only embedding streams (but it's not correct with Your way of thinking); or (as it is in competetive sites) improve regulations about number of streams from every single embed site (per day) with some kind of ratio. It would surely make FSi more "reliable" and then all the site-owners would do their best to improve their position in schedule (no one wants to get bad marks :) ). And You would be undisturbed with those signals from members, because they could choose where they want to watch something interesting. It's not so hard to make those changes, but of course You should calculate both options on Your own.

Tats

31-07-2011, 09:06 AM

there is a list of 20 browser sites listed up top . I personaly never use them only as a last resort ( no offence to anyone ) so if i came to that last resort 20 would be more than enough to trawl through . Also if the powers that be think that then 20 are good enough then that will do for me . No use moanin about it .

revolver

31-07-2011, 09:41 AM

And if sites are just embedding streams from other places there is little no sense in having 3 or 4 links with the same stream.

Browser streams are usually the most likely to be pulled, so you want actual alternative streams.

Tats

31-07-2011, 10:00 AM

sopcast rulz

bitts

31-07-2011, 06:07 PM

Sir,

I totally respect your decision. Your points are right. My site is not included in the list and i have the following case to help me get back into your list of browser based streams..

Sir the reason due to which i use adsense is that i was cheated by a person who was the owner of this sight and i bought it for money. So one of the main reasons for using adsense is that i want to recover some money from it. I know that my money is not related to FSI but its just one reason.

Second Reason for using adsense is that i really need to get the money to pay the servers as well just like you. As i do not have a business account so i cannot get donations on my side.

Sir the third point is the most important one due to which i can say that i may get into the FSI list of browser based streams

I personally post embeded streams to the channels. You can verify it that i only put streams of very few matches. Just check my most recent schedule which only contains 6 matches.

I know its against the policy of FSI about criticizing other fellow streamers but i think i need to do in order to clarify my point. You can see i have put 6 matches in two days whereas a lot of other fellow streamers put a lot of matches due to which they are unable to provide quality and trusted links on their sites. Rest assure you that i will only put streams of top 6 clubs in BPL and no more because i maintain standard and only put enough number of links that i can work on.

Moreover, if this point is not enough then you people can take me into a verification period of one week or so so that you people can verify that the links which i post on the forum really work.

Last but not the least, i have utmost respect for your organization as FSI is one of the top free streaming sites on web. So will do whatever you want me to do.

Finally Sir, if you do not allow me to put adsense on the channels on which people come from FSI then i assure you that i will remove the adsense codes because as you know i have bought this site so i want traffi to increase its worth so that i can resale it a larger price.

Do consider the last point please of removing adsense sites to get traffic from FSI because i want to increase the value of my site

Begbie

31-07-2011, 07:28 PM

As mentioned above, there is no point in posting links from non-streamers. If the original streamers aren't online, the non-streamers won't have working links either. We should be spending our time tracking down original streams, not posting copied streams.

Again, as mentioned above, we realise that some embedding sites are more dependable than others. Unfortunately, there is no way to fairly determine which ones should be allowed. They can all make a case for retaining their own site. We've tried to accommodate the non-streaming sites but it hasn't worked. A line has to be drawn and the most obvious line is 'streamers only'. The list of streamers will be kept under review and people who do not stream on a regular basis will be removed.

Most of FSi admin and mods could quite easily set up a browser site. Indeed, we could just embed the streamer links that appear on FSi (:lol:) but we choose not to. That's our ethos.

Tats

31-07-2011, 08:31 PM

Hate that word "ethos"

Begbie

31-07-2011, 10:28 PM

Hate that word "ethos"It's a good word and is the best word, used correctly, to articulate my views.

I agree that when the word is used by businesses as a smoke-screen to make them seem more "touchy-feely", the word is used wrongly. You don't hate the word. You hate how it is often utilised.

I'll still argue that the staff at FSi have an 'ethos'. Many days we can't be arsed but we still post the links.

bitts

01-08-2011, 12:32 AM

Sir, i think you didnt notice my last point about removing all the adverts. I can justify that i am not here only to make money. I have written over 700 articles during 2010-2011 season all about match reports, previews and live streams of the matches. You can easily verify that as well.

I read the above discussion between one of the moderator named Stennely as i guess and he/she asked my fellow streamers to remove all the adverts from the site. Sir i am ready to do that. I am ready to remove the adverts from the FSI channels. However, do give me permission to use adsense on my articles which i write. Apart from that, there will be no adsense ads visible on FSI channels and thats a promise from me.

To be honest, FSI is the main source through which i get traffic. I have seen you people have selected some of the browser based streams because they fit into your criteria. As already said, i work closely on matches due to which there is very little chance i will not show streams.

According to discussion by Stennely the moderator, i feel i can be given a chance. However, things do move on and if you people do not give me a chance even after i match all the defined criteria then surely i will happily accept your decision.

sportszone

01-08-2011, 11:43 AM

Sir,

If your site is under non-profitable organization & you all intention is not to allow other people to earn money using adverts, is it ethical you people allow streaming site people to display adverts???

Begbie

01-08-2011, 12:11 PM

Not really but as stated above, a line has to be drawn somewhere and the line has been drawn.

revolver

01-08-2011, 12:19 PM

I think the grey area is that FSi does not like people leeching on someone else's stream and then gaining on the ads.

If you own the stream then having ads to cover your site expenses is perfectly acceptable.

This site relies on donations; other sites will use ads to cover costs.

As long as it is your stream this site will support your stream.

sportszone

01-08-2011, 01:30 PM

When talking about a line, it should not be just line.As you people repeatedly mentioned earlier that both sides(non-streaming & streaming) had (with quality and availability) sites.In such a situation what is the meaning of drawing a line saying streaming sites only.Is it wisely drawn one? or just a line to take revenge of non-streamers making money more than some other party???

bitts

01-08-2011, 01:43 PM

@ Begbie.

You have not reply to my message. I know its useless to argue but please at least read my points

adam_ayres1988

01-08-2011, 01:57 PM

Will fsi be able to still show my stream?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehmu-lTJXF0

Begbie

01-08-2011, 02:21 PM

I'll repeat the first post in this thread:

FSi will no longer post links from browser sites which do not have a history of streaming (at least a few) of their links. We thank the sites who have posted but regret that we can no longer post your links. There are 2 main reasons for this.

A number of FSi members have been complaining about the quality and availability of matches on embedded browser streams. They are fed up watching adverts and no streams.

It takes too long to post the embedded streams. FSi staff are spending up to 3 hours per day posting streams that originate from other streamers' sites. We should be expending our efforts in identifying the source and posting the source links thereafter.

There are several other reasons but that will do for now.

At present, our list of browser sites that will be posted is:

ATDHE
FIRST ROW
VIP BOX
DERBY HD
BEST-LIVE SPORT
ARTHUR STREAMS
UKTV SPORTS
FOOTV.EU
LIVESTREAMZ
LIVE-SPORT
SOULSSPORTS
VIP TV/MAGIC
KIWI/SILVER/NORWAY
QUIROZ
SPORTZ-FOR-FREE
FREEFOOTIE
TYKES TV
SUPER-SPORTZ
LEESTREAMS
VENTURE TV

If you believe that another site should be added or that one of the above should be excluded, please post.

We request that you do not PM Admin or Mods on this matter. Please post your thoughts here. A PM will probably result in a ban.

The section that reads:

If you believe that another site should be added or that one of the above should be excluded, please post. was referring to streaming sites. Non-streaming sites need not apply.

The section that reads:

We request that you do not PM Admin or Mods on this matter. Please post your thoughts here. A PM will probably result in a ban. is the main reason for not replying to PMs.

The decision has been made. Maybe when you whinge about a decision to your mummy, it works. I am not your mummy and will not change my mind.

mike81

01-08-2011, 02:36 PM

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp, if you own the stream, we'll link you, if you don't, we won't.

big dan

01-08-2011, 03:23 PM

I'll repeat the first post in this thread:

The section that reads:

was referring to streaming sites. Non-streaming sites need not apply.

The section that reads:

is the main reason for not replying to PMs.

The decision has been made. Maybe when you whinge about a decision to your mummy, it works. I am not your mummy and will not change my mind.

oooooooooooooooooooo begs getting bitchey neva saw that before

Sharks

01-08-2011, 04:44 PM

Good call. Well done homies. Fecking sick of having to spend ages closing ads and using crappy sites which have embedded streams from other sites.

Good work fellas.

jake robinson

01-08-2011, 04:59 PM

Will fsi be able to still show my stream?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehmu-lTJXF0
I think Adam should be banned, that is in no way what so ever his own stream.:lol:

bitts

01-08-2011, 05:43 PM

Ok. No need to get angry... Stennely who is one of the moderators in FSI stated about removing ads in this discussion so thats why i gave reasons... unless i dont need to discuss if a decision has been made...

Although, ban will affect but things do move on...and i am sure one day i would rather compete with FSi... :D

bitts

01-08-2011, 05:45 PM

No offence Moderators.. :D

I respect FSI as an organization and have respect for you people as well because you people are spending your time for providing free football to people...

Hats Off FSI and its Crew!! :)

tommo1971

03-08-2011, 06:57 PM

Tats

03-08-2011, 07:06 PM

Begbie

03-08-2011, 07:42 PM

First thing.....Why are you calling begbie SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second thing......If you do not like the concept of advert free streams and a totally free site for watching football (and many other sports), GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Third thing.....i love my FSI :lol:I'm known amongst my peer group as 'Sir'. (I try to discourage it but they won't stop calling me by the name. :lol:)

Seriously, Tommo. They are from Sri Lanka etc. My Tamil and Sinhalese is a bit rusty and I'm sure that their English is better. The odds are, the posts has been made via Google Translate so are bound to look a bit strange.

Ignoring that, re: this thread's topic - On the MINUS side, we had less links for tonight's Ranger game. On the PLUS side, I was able to add more advert-free links around KO time and the vast majority of the links worked well. I had spent a lot less time copying through the non-streaming links so felt that I had more time to offer at KO time.

We still had a few dodgy links for the other games but that is what the Feedback should now be for...... Register an interest in a match which there are no working links for and we'll try to get you links, especially if none of the posted ones have 'come in' (and it is non-UK).

I'm just thinking out loud now and can see many problems but we've gotten into a cozy '3 years ago it worked' mind-set and need to have a new look at link-posting.

bitts

04-08-2011, 08:35 AM

To Clarify,

Begbie and All Other Moderators,

I only used the word SIR because i respect your work and to be honest you people deserve respect as you are spending your time for football fans and in return you people are not getting anything. I am not sure what amount you people get from donations but still people with big heart can do this work.

You will notice that i am the only browser based streamer who is still posting on FSI. I already told you that i was cheated with this streaming website and have lost some money in this but FSI as an organization does not have any matter in it.

Everything has two aspects. You cannot make judgments or decisions by only hearing or watching one aspect but i have one question that the 20 other sites which FSI included in the list also have some browser based streams as well. So why are they included? I am not talking to get my site into the list because a decision has been made and i will fully respect that decision. Its just a question and if those sites dont have advertisements then others can join as well by following criteria.

Moreover, i know i am hardly any worthy but it will be a feeling of pride and honor for me to work as a member of FSI. Do tell me if you people have some work for me. I promise i will never take my site into anything related to FSI.

scudd

04-08-2011, 09:36 AM

Bitts, we are not stopping the links to all browser based streams, just the ones that are not the original source.You need to look at the difference between streaming a match and leeching a stream.. If you were actually providing the stream there wouldn't be a problem with your site.

You are obviously not doing that. The channels in begbie's list are all the original source of streams, they are actually providing the stream.. they are not just linking to already existing streams.

Does that clear it up for you?

fbsportground

04-08-2011, 10:50 AM

Mr FSI

Remember FSI, we(non-streamers) not only advertise other advertisements.we were advertised your FSI name also i have put your Name in my site i think other all are have done the same thing...isn't ?

later story was you were gave us chance to post our sites in your FSI site...because of that we were put your FSI name in our sites..
simply its means you were sponsored us to show the soccer matches....
marketing isn't ?

why we(both FSI and non-streamers) can not keep it up....

i think all are spent lot of time(both day and night) with their sites to show quality matches.....so they need money for that..that why every one advertising...

think twice ........

Thank you FSI

Begbie

04-08-2011, 11:36 AM

Non-streaming sites are missing the point. FSi exists solely to provide free links to watch football. We have limited resources eg available man-hours, server access, time constraints. We use those resources in the most efficient way that we can. In our judgement these resources should be used to hunt down and post original streams, not c/p links to second-hand (ie. stolen) streams.

We do not exist to promote other websites.

bitts

04-08-2011, 01:25 PM

Yeah Scudd, Begbie..

I get your point now...However, can i help you people apart from donations?I dont have credit card or paypal that is why i cannot make my part in that aspect..

Begbie

04-08-2011, 03:50 PM

Yeah Scudd, Begbie..

I get your point now...However, can i help you people apart from donations?I dont have credit card or paypal that is why i cannot make my part in that aspect..Thanks for your offer, Bitts. It is very much appreciated. If anything comes up, we'll get in touch.

hdlivestream

05-08-2011, 07:24 PM

Tats

05-08-2011, 07:28 PM

is it me bein thick here or are all non streamers leaching off the real streamers ? Why the fuck link to a non streaming site/page when you can just link to the original stream ?

Begbie

05-08-2011, 08:13 PM

Hello Begbie n FSI Team

I respect your decision, is it possible to add NON-Streamer sites link in Future by applying some fees or some limitations like Only 10 -15 links allow in a day, all Non Streamers were not bad, think about it my friend

Best Regards

HD Live StreamSorry, HD. We appreciate your efforts in the past, you were one of the good ones, but we won't be adding any pay-as-you-post element.

As you know, FSi is totally against the commercialisation of football. We won't try to make a few quid from others so charging for links is not acceptable. We only stay afloat because of donations from people who agree with our ethos. To be honest, the donations that we receive don't cover the server costs. An anonymous company tops up the funds, when required, just because they like what we do.

jake robinson

05-08-2011, 09:36 PM

If you are going to bribe the mods you are thinking of the wrong currency.
:lager::jackd:

Venturetv

06-08-2011, 10:34 AM

I think this is a very good descion and I would thank the FSI team for including my site on the list.

hdlivestream

06-08-2011, 03:19 PM

Sorry, HD. We appreciate your efforts in the past, you were one of the good ones, but we won't be adding any pay-as-you-post element.

As you know, FSi is totally against the commercialisation of football. We won't try to make a few quid from others so charging for links is not acceptable. We only stay afloat because of donations from people who agree with our ethos. To be honest, the donations that we receive don't cover the server costs. An anonymous company tops up the funds, when required, just because they like what we do.

Thanks for your Appreciation, hope for the best, you and your team are very good and dooing great job for football lovers

Sharks

06-08-2011, 03:42 PM

hdlivestream

06-08-2011, 07:19 PM

What a crock of fucking shit. Why should I give you money to watch your stream? Attitudes like this is why this site was created by Mr Head and his team. Football for all and for free.

Got a link for the Carlisle match?

i suggest it because if someone pay money for adding his link, he will definitely care to provide good and quality stream , got my point positively, this kind of sites free for public, but FSI will charge some fees to NON-Streamer for adding their links on FSI

fishtoast

06-08-2011, 07:34 PM

FSI will never charge anything to watch any footy/sport no matter what way some try to word it and will sometimes ask for the odd donation to keep the server working,as others have said they spent hours and hours of their time getting links :lol: some people say they will show certain things only for others to find out that the sport that was suppose to be on that link is not there at all etc

jonny68

06-08-2011, 07:47 PM

cheers for all the links folks much appreciated:)

Begbie

06-08-2011, 08:40 PM

i suggest it because if someone pay money for adding his link, he will definitely care to provide good and quality stream , got my point positively, this kind of sites free for public, but FSI will charge some fees to NON-Streamer for adding their links on FSIFSi is not a business venture (and we're proud of the fact).

If we started charging sites to post, that would open the door to all sorts of advertising. If this happened, other mods (and me) would start our own sites.

My site would be better than the rest. :lol:

stenelly

06-08-2011, 09:15 PM

FSi is not a business venture (and we're proud of the fact).

If we started charging sites to post, that would open the door to all sorts of advertising. If this happened, other mods (and me) would start our own sites.

My site would be better than the rest. :lol:
simply the best better than all the rest
http://www.fsicrew.info/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

score

07-08-2011, 10:48 PM

i cant understand fsi-team in this discussion. to be honest, fsi post very often links, taken from other big popular schedule-sites like atdhe, vipbox and fromsport who use mostly "only" embed streams from elsewhere. those schedule-site are doing the same "job/ hobby" like fsi!!!
1. nobody knows wether those feeds work (flash often not) - streams come and go!!!
2. those feeds, embed from any "schedule-sites" who post links to matches, have often enough annoying ads on it. BUT there does exist firefox browser / google chrome with adblocker plus and the problem is solved! who cares any ads then, lol
in my opinion fsi would be right if they present only own found streams and not those streams (sopcast for example) copied from myp..p & co.

i think the main reason why fsi at the moment dont accept most of the browser based websites is that they have enough streaming sources to present on their schedule. congrates!
i have given up posting feeds here or elsewhere :) - exactly for these reasons

Begbie

08-08-2011, 12:19 PM

ATDHE, VIP BOX and FIRST ROW all have a history of posting their own streams, especially for UK games, if no alternatives are available. That is the main reason why we post their links.

tommo1971

23-08-2011, 09:05 PM

Well thats different :eek:

CNUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
;):grass::headshot::computer_smash:

Allochtony

13-09-2011, 10:28 PM

If you are going to bribe the mods you are thinking of the wrong currency.
:lager::jackd:

Here here!

cyggy

22-10-2011, 11:31 AM

Often it takes me 10 minutes to find a stream when Baggies are away. The non-stop advert merchants are a real pain, but one learns to trust certain sites. Keep up the good work lads, even my old cousin (86), loved the football on here. I can't do away games any more. :)

Begbie

22-10-2011, 12:34 PM

MCFCeastanglia

25-01-2012, 01:03 PM

for free ? ok then take all adverts off your links then we will post them all. FSI IS ADVERT FREE. UNLIKE YOUR LINKS

Ive recently noticed that the BROADCAST modules are carrying the adverts now-streami-hogy-veemi-jtv-ustream-that awful zonein -ALL carry screen adverts .I dont see how anyone can remove them given the limited embed code you get from the caster(size shape colour etc is about it)Also many website providers require ad space unless you subscribe to ridiculous packs.That leaves little scope for the person who ACTUALLY OWNS said site to place ANY ads whatsoever-first row -vip stand both use pop up & under adverts on main pages & every stream page -these are from both the embedded feed & the site owner (can be easily checked on source)

Also there is somethin else-Many sites like the reputable ones you list above have GENUINE affiliates (called a whitelist)so a site that has permissions & is even encouraged to take feeds to lessen numbers on a certain site -could be deemed as "bad" here when in fact they simply are not. I wont name any sites that do this as its probably against forum rules.but there are several sites now that affiliate with the "big boys" on a friendly basis,unlike in recent years when behaviour has been very childish.Yes there are sites that steal streams.there are people who steal cars,money,handbags,it happens.It is simple these days to stop this & this fact has led to these amalgamations betweek certain sites.This is a great thing.Simply down to the people now running these big sites,who dont see £££ they see footy fans who cant afford SLY TV .Long may this continue :)

stenelly

25-01-2012, 04:19 PM

Ive recently noticed that the BROADCAST modules are carrying the adverts now-streami-hogy-veemi-jtv-ustream-that awful zonein -ALL carry screen adverts .I dont see how anyone can remove them given the limited embed code you get from the caster(size shape colour etc is about it)Also many website providers require ad space unless you subscribe to ridiculous packs.That leaves little scope for the person who ACTUALLY OWNS said site to place ANY ads whatsoever-first row -vip stand both use pop up & under adverts on main pages & every stream page -these are from both the embedded feed & the site owner (can be easily checked on source)

Also there is somethin else-Many sites like the reputable ones you list above have GENUINE affiliates (called a whitelist)so a site that has permissions & is even encouraged to take feeds to lessen numbers on a certain site -could be deemed as "bad" here when in fact they simply are not. I wont name any sites that do this as its probably against forum rules.but there are several sites now that affiliate with the "big boys" on a friendly basis,unlike in recent years when behaviour has been very childish.Yes there are sites that steal streams.there are people who steal cars,money,handbags,it happens.It is simple these days to stop this & this fact has led to these amalgamations betweek certain sites.This is a great thing.Simply down to the people now running these big sites,who dont see £££ they see footy fans who cant afford SLY TV .Long may this continue :)

:goodpost: :clap::clap::clap: well said. If only this was the norm and not the exception.
This can be seen every week when we have to ask another streamer to leave for "borrowing" other peoples streams, to pass off as their own.

accieturk

25-01-2012, 10:26 PM

agree with Sten a superb post MCF
id just add a couple of points
i dont think it is breaking any confidences to state that one of the reasons the "original streamer" policy was initially adopted was to protect the streamer as much as anyone else as at the time the embed boom was just taking off and too many people were ripping others streams and broadcasting them at poor quality reflecting badly on the original streamer ,as well as wasting both linkfinders and members valusable time ploughing through poor quality repeats of good original streams

i dont know if given the amount of sites now adopting the "whitelist" policy if its as widespread a policy as was but several streamers (some big some not) would actually rent their stream out to smaller normally single page or blog based streamers who would then swamp their page and stream with ads just to cover the cost ,something which went against the principles of this site and was seen as blatant over commercialism and exploitation of both the smaller (willing) streamer and those viewing the streams
thankfully now sites are passing streams over to those who perhaps can help ease server strain etc and i for one as a member and viewer dont mind as long as both parties agree and no one charging the other and the stream doesnt deteriorate as a result

but i do still agree that fsi is right to try and filter out and not post links for anyone who is "stealing" and profiting from someone .who perhaps doesnt even have a single ad efforts to provide a free stream in the original and sole intention of free football for the masses as was the case with all streamers at one time

cyggy

05-05-2012, 02:18 PM

I am disappointed that the ads have driven people away, me included. I spent ages on a SHARED computer trying to watch Baggies matches and have ended up frustrated and angry at the totally selfish sites who promise all and show nowt ! They will find they cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

accieturk

05-05-2012, 02:35 PM

remeber using adblock will fix most sites ads (notall)and save the ads from spoiling anyones viewing of matches
as MCF pointed out for several reasons some site do require to have ads in place ,not something any of us like but unavoidable in some cases ,that however thanks to adblock and other simlar devices deasnt mean we have to endure them

also most matches do have at least 1 sopcast stream and apart from the sopcast ad on their front page (easily switched off/blocked) the streams are ad free

if anyone is considering giving up viewing streams or needs any help on dealing with popup or embeded ads
simply post and we will do all we can to help guide you to a more enjoyable streaming experience

2dogz

14-05-2012, 12:02 AM

MADCHESTER CITY

14-05-2012, 07:51 AM

Eternally greatfull to fsi for helping me watch the footy.

I disagree that there's Sop links for most games.

My team (Everton) usually only get a Sopcast link when we're playing a top 4-8 side.

The browser links stopped working on chrome a few weeks ago, and now they dont work on explorer.

I need help :cry:

Have you tried re-installing them?

fishtoast

14-05-2012, 03:30 PM

accieturk

14-05-2012, 04:38 PM

2Dogz
please try making sure you have the latest flash players installed andare activatedand compatible for each of the browsers you use
you may also want to try clearing your cache and cookies before viewing a stream and see if that help
also please check your firewall(s) are not blocking your flash players or p2p conections
one last idea
are all your video codecs up to date as well
try checking all of the above then a stream if you still have the problem we will do all we can to help