Middlesbrough 2010/11

[mfc1876]

Two wins on the trot now. Hopefully we can keep it going on Sunday at Swansea. Mowbray seems to be doing a sterling job so far!

Let's make the Boro forum bigger than Citeh's!

(I couldn't find a 'tongue in cheek' smiley for this thread)

[ruudboy]

Yes, onwards and upwards for my surrogate championship team!!!!!

Bernie Slaven is God

[mfc1876]

Time to kickstart these forums and get some proper banter going lol

[glenman]

Echo echo.....................

[mfc1876]

[wakka839]

Yea, but is this just not strachan's master plan coming to fruition? what can mowbray have changed so quickly that strachan was doing so badly at?

[ruudboy]

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Originally Posted by wakka839

Yea, but is this just not strachan's master plan coming to fruition? what can mowbray have changed so quickly that strachan was doing so badly at?

I'd say it is a personality thing Wakka, Strachan is not supposed to be the most approachable bloke. Maybe the measured, calm approach from Mowbray works better, he seems to be the type of coach who trusts his players and lets them get on with it.

[mfc1876]

In a nutshell... I'd say 'man management'.

Elaborate? OK, In his interview at his unveiling press conference he was talking about the need for players to settle in, looking for houses, making sure the mrs is happy, finding new schools for the kids etc etc. Probably being a lot more understanding to players everyday problems and in my experience of working for people who aren't understanding to people's everyday problems (my boss is a cunt and a fucking arsehole) it makes you want to actually put a good days work in for the more understanding type of boss.

Maybe that's not the reason for the turnaround, or maybe it's one of many reasons, all I can say is we're playing a much better style of football and the players seem to be really enjoying it at the same time. They love playing the way he's telling them to play and seem to be really on board with the fresh ideas he's brough to the club. They're playing with 'smiles on their faces' now as it were.

Now I'm not as eloquent as Ruudy up there at expressing my points of view so hopefully yous can make sense of what I just wrote lol! I know what I mean anyway...

[mfc1876]

Ah crap another defeat today, 1-0. Scott Sinclair in the 84th minute (another championship player who can't stop scoring) 12 goals in 16 games for him now. Only one shot on target for the Boro according to BBC website.

We have 2 home games on the bounce now, Millwall on saturday and Hull the week after so if we can we make those count and get a couple of wins then 4 wins out of 5 wont be bad going!

(just looking on the bright side lol)

[ruudboy]

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Originally Posted by mfc1876

Ah crap another defeat today, 1-0. Scott Sinclair in the 84th minute (another championship player who can't stop scoring) 12 goals in 16 games for him now. Only one shot on target for the Boro according to BBC website.

We have 2 home games on the bounce now, Millwall on saturday and Hull the week after so if we can we make those count and get a couple of wins then 4 wins out of 5 wont be bad going!

(just looking on the bright side lol)

2 home games on the bounce is great, if they get 6 points (and they should), it will set them right up for the december madness, where championship teams play 89 games in 4 weeks lol!

ok so not 89, but they play 7 games in a month?? pretty hectic. i fancy the boro now that Mowbray is at the controls. Back in the prem next year, would be great to se all three north east teams there.

[mfc1876]

Well it was another defeat for the Boro again yesterday, at home to Millwall. Once again no urgency or passion shown. Just going through the motions until the whistle blows and we come away with no points.

Millwall had lost 3 out of the last 4 games but 'never mind' they must have thought, 'we've got Boro next, there's 3 points in the bag right there'.

I've woken up to the fact now that there is no way on God's green Earth we even remotely have a chance of 'making the playoffs' (laughable) and that this season is going to be one long relegation battle.

The 'business men' behind the scenes at the club should hang their heads in shame at what they've let this team become. Apparently Mowbray was only given a 12 month contract and we're already talking about selling our best players in the January sales so how the fuck they think we're gonna achieve promotion anytime soon is beyond me

It lets the fans know that Mogga has no say in who goes out of the club as long as the 'right offer' comes in for any one of our players. I really feel sorry for the fella as it's become apparent he was only appointed to relieve some fan pressure. I wonder if Gibbo's ready to give up on the Boro now and is basically just getting his money back? Probably not the case but it's baffling to see what's going on here now.

It just seems we're one of those clubs now where we sell our best players for handsome fees and replace them with much cheaper players who are blidingly obviously not up to the same standard as their predecessor and yet they still expect the fans to turn up in their thousands each week tipping up their hard earned cash when it's plain for all to see they're being fleeced. I'm so glad I don't go to games anymore (I can't afford to these days) and I feel sorry for the supporters who pay to watch that shite every week.

Even if I could afford to pay the ridiculous entry fees to football grounds these days I still don't think I would go as I don't agree with the kind of money that's involved in the game now. I don't think anyone deserves to be paid 100-150k a WEEK no matter what they do for a living! It's not as if these players give a fuck about you anyway so why should you give a fuck about them? This is starting to reminds me of the 'Good Rant' post made the other day.

There's certain men behind the scenes who would have been sacked a long time ago if they worked for any other business due to incompetence, Keith Lamb to name one. He must be the most hated man on Teesside! Fuck's up at every given opportunity and tries to blame someone else every time. He's a fucking sneaky, slimy, oily fucking snake.

Gordon Strachan has to take a lot of blame too for what's happened here. I've not seen a manager take a club so far backwards since Graeme Souness was at Liverpool! It'll be interesting to see if the ginger cnut will ever get another managerial post?

Anyway didn't mean to go on for so long, I guess I had a few issues on my chest.

Still hope we beat Hull next week though...

[jabdc5]

I wonder where you'd be now if you'd kept Southgate?

[fishtoast]

Higher up than they are,as said by me a few months ago,it was the wrong decision to get rid of him for me as they were 3rd or 4th at the time,guess its what happens love him or hate him,Rememeber a year or 2 ago Tranmere got rid of their boss after missing out on the play off's by conceeding an injury time goal that cost them there place in the play off positions -the boss got sacked and the next season they only stayed up on the last day or last week by winning 3-0.

[mfc1876]

Yeah I often wonder what would have happened if we'd kept Southgate, saying that though in every year he managed us we finished lower each season and our results, before firing him, were quite erratic.

However, hindsight tells us that his hands were tied a lot of the time and he had no say on who got sold and since his departure there's been a war of words between him and Keith Lamb over who signed the great big pudding that was Alfonso Alves.

When Boro appointed Southgate it was the start of 'doing everything on the cheap', 'bring in a guy who's at the club already and because he's new to managment we can basically tell him what to do' is the general feeling here of how things went.

I really thought Tony Mowbray was the man to turn things around here but the revelation of only a 12 month contract (in which Lamb brushed that question aside in Tony's appointment press conference as a personal matter between him and Tony) and already talk of selling our best players in January leads me to the conclusion that history is repeating itself and Tony has no say in who gets sold just as was the case with Southgate.

They'll never learn and that's why I said Lamb needs to be as far away from the Boro as possible as he just can't stop getting involved in transfer matters and fucking up big time.

If we sign a player who becomes a success at the club, then he's all over the local press telling us what a big role he played in the signing, if the player turns out to be a failure then it was the managers idea to sign that particular player. He never comes out and as such either way at the time we sign said player though? Shouldn't it be the managers idea to sign EVERY player who comes into a club?

It was Lamb who called the game off at Blackburn that time and cost us 3 points that ended up getting us relegated. All I can say is he must have some pretty incriminating pictures of Gibbo tucked away somewhere because nobody can fuck up as many times as that fella in a position of responsibilty and still have a job to go to!!!

Like I say, I feel sorry for the guys who are still tipping their cash at the turnstyles every week and getting robbed. I refer to an earlier post I made about how sad I am to see the direction in which our (working class) beautiful game is going

[ruudboy]

whats happenin to the only championship thread?

come on the 'boro!!!!!!

[ruudboy]

Burton away in the f.a. cup

good draw for us!!!!!!!!!

come on!!!!!!!!!

[Begbie]

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Originally Posted by ruudboy

Burton away in the f.a. cup

good draw for us!!!!!!!!!

come on!!!!!!!!!

I'm confused. Did Man U not get Liverpool?

[mfc1876]

A draw yesterday (woo hoo) against Hull at home so instead of the 6 points from the 2 home games I was hoping for we got 1. 2nd bottom we lie and a couple of points adrift from safety too.

The big question on Teesside at the mo is who rules the roost at the Riverside as regards to signings and departures? Is It Mogga or is it Gibbo and Lamb?

We shall soon find out over the coming weeks as all the talk is of Wheater leaving us in January but the lad himself has been saying he wants to stay at the club and I would have thought Mowbray would want to keep him too. He's apparently out of contract soon but if the club put a decent offer to him the general concensus is he'll be happy to sign a new one but I have a feeling Gibbo and partner can't wait to cash in on him and 'use the cash for players'.

Who the fuck do they think they're gonna get from the sale of Wheater?!!! He's not as good as he was 12 months ago for starters and his valuation will have dropped considerably since he was getting into the England squads?! I'd rather they spent the money on giving this lad a good deal rather than have to probably end up spending more anyway once they've paid transfer fees, agents fees and signing on fees!

I personally think Gibbo's honey pot has definately run dry and he should be looking for investors to come on board to save our club. Don't get me wrong, He's obviously performed wonders at the Boro but I just think he's taken us about as far as he can on his own now and I just feel he needs some financial help, someone to come in and inject some much needed cash into the club because if we're not careful and slip down into Legue 1, with all the players we've got on Championship wages (and maybe still 1 or 2 on Premier league wages) there'll have to be a huge clearout and then we'll be REALLY fucked!

Also by saying we need an investor makes me feel like a total hypocrite as I'm not happy about the state of the game already, needing mega rich people to take over your club to have a hope in hell of having any kind of notable success. I guess for me it's a no win situation lol! I just have to accept that that's the nature of the game these days if I don't want to see my club be the next one that's in threat of going to the wall!

Reading between the lines in the local press etc though it seems we need to sell to raise funds. Come on Gibbo turn it around and get us back into the Premiership!

[ruudboy]

begs,]
in my shocking first few shows, mfc was there with emails preventing me from committing suicide. M'boro are my surrogate team.

come on the boro

[mfc1876]

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Originally Posted by Begbie

I'm confused. Did Man U not get Liverpool?

Ruud's 2nd team is Boro. My fault. I apologised to him profusely for all the future hurt and misery this will cause him lol!