FSi no longer posting non-streamer sites

**admin** · #1 16-05-2010, 09:08 PM

FSi will no longer post links from browser sites which do not have a history of streaming (at least a few) of their links. We thank the sites who have posted but regret that we can no longer post your links. There are 2 main reasons for this.

A number of FSi members have been complaining about the quality and availability of matches on embedded browser streams. They are fed up watching adverts and no streams.

It takes too long to post the embedded streams. FSi staff are spending up to 3 hours per day posting streams that originate from other streamers' sites. We should be expending our efforts in identifying the source and posting the source links thereafter.

There are several other reasons but that will do for now.

At present, our list of browser sites that will be posted is:

ATDHE
FIRST ROW
VIP BOX
DERBY HD
BEST-LIVE SPORT
ARTHUR STREAMS
UKTV SPORTS
FOOTV.EU
LIVESTREAMZ
LIVE-SPORT
SOULSSPORTS
VIP TV/MAGIC
KIWI/SILVER/NORWAY
QUIROZ
SPORTZ-FOR-FREE
FREEFOOTIE
TYKES TV
SUPER-SPORTZ
LEESTREAMS
VENTURE TV

If you believe that another site should be added or that one of the above should be excluded, please post.

We request that you do not PM Admin or Mods on this matter. Please post your thoughts here. A PM will probably result in a ban.

**Begbie** · #2 30-07-2011, 10:40 PM

FSi announcement.

**freesoccer** · #3 30-07-2011, 10:59 PM

Hi mate, Please add me to the list, because i'm working hard to put best links for matches. not just a one link. and i'm providing good quality highlights in FSI. Thanks

**stenelly** · #4 30-07-2011, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by freesoccer

Hi mate, Please add me to the list, because i'm working hard to put best links for matches. not just a one link. and i'm providing good quality highlights in FSI. Thanks

All above names stream some content do you? I can find every stream you link.
I can even link the site you post for highlights.
Can you give any other reason why we should bother to re post links we have found just to give you a income. FSI IS A NONE PROFIT MAKING SITE. WHY SHOULD WE HELP YOU TO MAKE MONEY?

**freesoccer** · #5 30-07-2011, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stenelly

All above names stream some content do you? I can find every stream you link.
I can even link the site you post for highlights.
Can you give any other reason why we should bother to re post links we have found just to give you a income. FSI IS A NONE PROFIT MAKING SITE. WHY SHOULD WE HELP YOU TO MAKE MONEY?

I'm not just do this for making money, if i need to keep my server running then i need money. I'm doing this live matches and highlights for every sports fans free.

**stenelly** · #6 30-07-2011, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by freesoccer

I'm not just do this for making money, if i need to keep my server running then i need money. I'm doing this live matches and highlights for every sports fans free.

for free ? ok then take all adverts off your links then we will post them all. FSI IS ADVERT FREE. UNLIKE YOUR LINKS

**freesoccer** · #7 30-07-2011, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stenelly

for free ? ok then take all adverts off your links then we will post them all. FSI IS ADVERT FREE. UNLIKE YOUR LINKS

ok i'll remove the ad which is on the video.

**Begbie** · #8 31-07-2011, 12:06 AM

Sorry. The decision has been made. Streaming sites only.

We realise that some browser sites are better than others but we have to draw a line in the sand. Unfortunately, some of the good ones are on the wrong side of that line.

**freesoccer** · #9 31-07-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Begbie

Sorry. The decision has been made. Streaming sites only.

We realise that some browser sites are better than others but we have to draw a line in the sand. Unfortunately, some of the good ones are on the wrong side of that line.

I know what you are talking about mate, but I always tried to treat fans by providing good Live links and highlights. I really worked hard on that.

**sportszone** · #10 31-07-2011, 03:20 AM

Sir,

What about having separate page(sub-main thread) or sub-section on current main page for non-streamers.Suppose that doesn't make any disturb to FSI viewers. That makes only more channel choices for FSI viewers.Mean while they have their right to decide whether they are going for channel with adverts or not?

* Sir I don't like to point-out this and that channels doing harmful things to FSI reputation.So please try to treat everyone from same spoon.

Thank you...

**jake robinson** · #11 31-07-2011, 06:59 AM

Good call this, too many people jumping on to make money. Lots of people on here wont have the addons to stop all the money making adverts they have. There are so many good reliable links that work but I realise they still have to be found. This takes time of which linkfinders do it for free. All they get in return is people moaning about advert pop ups. If the streamers aren't working on their own sites then the ones who steal the streams and add adverts wont work anyway.
The guys on here do a fantastic job of supplying good working reliable links in their own time. I can only imagine how much time it takes to sort the good from the bad.
If members read and used the forums they will know which streams to use and rely on. A lot only use them to moan about these dodgy ones. It doesn't take long if you again use the forums to build a knowledge of if you like favourite links. Too many hit and runners on here who's only input is to moan.
just my two pence worth.

**kieloo** · #12 31-07-2011, 07:28 AM

Obviously U are doing a great job , so Your brand is well-known and of course You want to become more and more regular. I was reading Your first post and thought that You are mostly complaining about amount of work. I don't know what are Your professions but when I came to FSi for the first time, I was shocked why there is no adverts. The simplest solutions are always the best. In my opinion, there are two options: You should introduce small charges for people who are only embedding streams (but it's not correct with Your way of thinking); or (as it is in competetive sites) improve regulations about number of streams from every single embed site (per day) with some kind of ratio. It would surely make FSi more "reliable" and then all the site-owners would do their best to improve their position in schedule (no one wants to get bad marks

). And You would be undisturbed with those signals from members, because they could choose where they want to watch something interesting. It's not so hard to make those changes, but of course You should calculate both options on Your own.

**Tats** · #13 31-07-2011, 09:06 AM

there is a list of 20 browser sites listed up top . I personaly never use them only as a last resort ( no offence to anyone ) so if i came to that last resort 20 would be more than enough to trawl through . Also if the powers that be think that then 20 are good enough then that will do for me . No use moanin about it .

**revolver** · #14 31-07-2011, 09:41 AM

And if sites are just embedding streams from other places there is little no sense in having 3 or 4 links with the same stream.

Browser streams are usually the most likely to be pulled, so you want actual alternative streams.

**Tats** · #15 31-07-2011, 10:00 AM

sopcast rulz

**bitts** · #16 31-07-2011, 06:07 PM

Sir,

I totally respect your decision. Your points are right. My site is not included in the list and i have the following case to help me get back into your list of browser based streams..

Sir the reason due to which i use adsense is that i was cheated by a person who was the owner of this sight and i bought it for money. So one of the main reasons for using adsense is that i want to recover some money from it. I know that my money is not related to FSI but its just one reason.

Second Reason for using adsense is that i really need to get the money to pay the servers as well just like you. As i do not have a business account so i cannot get donations on my side.

Sir the third point is the most important one due to which i can say that i may get into the FSI list of browser based streams

I personally post embeded streams to the channels. You can verify it that i only put streams of very few matches. Just check my most recent schedule which only contains 6 matches.

I know its against the policy of FSI about criticizing other fellow streamers but i think i need to do in order to clarify my point. You can see i have put 6 matches in two days whereas a lot of other fellow streamers put a lot of matches due to which they are unable to provide quality and trusted links on their sites. Rest assure you that i will only put streams of top 6 clubs in BPL and no more because i maintain standard and only put enough number of links that i can work on.

Moreover, if this point is not enough then you people can take me into a verification period of one week or so so that you people can verify that the links which i post on the forum really work.

Last but not the least, i have utmost respect for your organization as FSI is one of the top free streaming sites on web. So will do whatever you want me to do.

Finally Sir, if you do not allow me to put adsense on the channels on which people come from FSI then i assure you that i will remove the adsense codes because as you know i have bought this site so i want traffi to increase its worth so that i can resale it a larger price.

Do consider the last point please of removing adsense sites to get traffic from FSI because i want to increase the value of my site

**Begbie** · #17 31-07-2011, 07:28 PM

As mentioned above, there is no point in posting links from non-streamers. If the original streamers aren't online, the non-streamers won't have working links either. We should be spending our time tracking down original streams, not posting copied streams.

Again, as mentioned above, we realise that some embedding sites are more dependable than others. Unfortunately, there is no way to fairly determine which ones should be allowed. They can all make a case for retaining their own site. We've tried to accommodate the non-streaming sites but it hasn't worked. A line has to be drawn and the most obvious line is 'streamers only'. The list of streamers will be kept under review and people who do not stream on a regular basis will be removed.

Most of FSi admin and mods could quite easily set up a browser site. Indeed, we could just embed the streamer links that appear on FSi (

) but we choose not to. That's our ethos.

**Tats** · #18 31-07-2011, 08:31 PM

Hate that word "ethos"

**Begbie** · #19 31-07-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tats

Hate that word "ethos"

It's a good word and is the best word, used correctly, to articulate my views.

I agree that when the word is used by businesses as a smoke-screen to make them seem more "touchy-feely", the word is used wrongly. You don't hate the word. You hate how it is often utilised.

I'll still argue that the staff at FSi have an 'ethos'. Many days we can't be arsed but we still post the links.

**bitts** · #20 01-08-2011, 12:32 AM

Sir, i think you didnt notice my last point about removing all the adverts. I can justify that i am not here only to make money. I have written over 700 articles during 2010-2011 season all about match reports, previews and live streams of the matches. You can easily verify that as well.

I read the above discussion between one of the moderator named Stennely as i guess and he/she asked my fellow streamers to remove all the adverts from the site. Sir i am ready to do that. I am ready to remove the adverts from the FSI channels. However, do give me permission to use adsense on my articles which i write. Apart from that, there will be no adsense ads visible on FSI channels and thats a promise from me.

To be honest, FSI is the main source through which i get traffic. I have seen you people have selected some of the browser based streams because they fit into your criteria. As already said, i work closely on matches due to which there is very little chance i will not show streams.

According to discussion by Stennely the moderator, i feel i can be given a chance. However, things do move on and if you people do not give me a chance even after i match all the defined criteria then surely i will happily accept your decision.