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[mfc1876]

I received this email this morning and thought I would share it. It reads as follows...

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer
Sebastian Vilar Rodriguez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan.
15, 2008. It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to
the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.

REMEMBER AS YOU READ -- IT WAS IN A SPANISH PAPER
Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered
a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz ... We killed six million
Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims.. In Auschwitz we burned
a culture, thought, creativity, talent. We destroyed the chosen people,
truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who
changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life:
science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of
the world. These are the people we burned.

And under the pretence of tolerance, and because we wanted to
prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we
opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and
ignorance, religious extremism and lack of tolerance, crime and poverty,
due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish
cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government,
they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical
hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for
backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and
their talent for a better future for their children, their determined
clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for
people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for
our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe ...

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000;
that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's
population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics:
(zero)

Physics:
(zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that
is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have
received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1910 - Paul Heyse
1927 - Henri Bergson
1958 - Boris Pasternak
1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
1966 - Nelly Sachs
1976 - Saul Bellow
1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
1981 - Elias Canetti
1987 - Joseph Brodsky
1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
1911 - Alfred Fried
1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
1968 - Rene Cassin
1973 - Henry Kissinger
1978 - Menachem Begin
1986 - Elie Wiesel
1994 - Shimon Peres
1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
1906 - Henri Moissan
1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
1910 - Otto Wallach
1915 - Richard Willstaetter
1918 - Fritz Haber
1921 - Albert Einstein
1922 - Niels Bohr
1925 - James Franck
1925 - Gustav Hertz
1943 - Gustav Stern
1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
1952 - Felix Bloch
1954 - Max Born
1958 - Igor Tamm
1959 - Emilio Segre
1960 - Donald A. Glaser
1961 - Robert Hofstadter
1961 - Melvin Calvin
1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
1965 - Julian Schwinger
1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
1971 - Dennis Gabor
1972 - William Howard Stein
1973 - Brian David Josephson
1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
1976 - Burton Richter
1977 - Ilya Prigogine
1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
1978 - Peter L Kapitza
1979 - Stephen Weinberg
1979 - Sheldon Glashow
1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
1980 - Paul Berg
1980 - Walter Gilbert
1981 - Roald Hoffmann
1982 - Aaron Klug
1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
1985 - Jerome Karle
1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
1988 - Robert Huber
1988 - Leon Lederman
1988 - Melvin Schwartz
1988 - Jack Steinberger
1989 - Sidney Altman
1990 - Jerome Friedman
1992 - Rudolph Marcus
1995 - Martin Perl
2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
1971 - Simon Kuznets
1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
1976 - Milton Friedman
1978 - Herbert A. Simon
1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
1985 - Franco Modigliani
1987 - Robert M. Solow
1990 - Harry Markowitz
1990 - Merton Miller
1992 - Gary Becker
1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
1908 - Paul Erlich
1914 - Robert Barany
1922 - Otto Meyerhof
1930 - Karl Landsteiner
1931 - Otto Warburg
1936 - Otto Loewi
1944 - Joseph Erlanger
1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
1953 - Hans Krebs
1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
1958 - Joshua Lederberg
1959 - Arthur Kornberg
1964 - Konrad Bloch
1965 - Francois Jacob
1965 - Andre Lwoff
1967 - George Wald
1968 - Marshall W. Nirenberg
1969 - Salvador Luria
1970 - Julius Axelrod
1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
1975 - Howard Martin Temin
1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
1978 - Daniel Nathans
1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
1984 - Cesar Milstein
1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
1986 - Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
1988 - Gertrude Elion
1989 - Harold Varmus
1991 - Erwin Neher
1991 - Bert Sakmann
1993 - Richard J. Roberts
1993 - Phillip Sharp
1994 - Alfred Gilman
1995 - Edward B. Lewis
1996- Lu RoseIacovino
TOTAL: 129!

The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military
training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause
maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims.. The Jews don't hijack
planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in
German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a
church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for
Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in
standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they
demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and
the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more
culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it
all:

'If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no
more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be
no more Israel ." Benjamin Netanyahu

General Eisenhower Warned Us It is a matter of history that when
the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower,
found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs
to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be
ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.

He did this because he said in words to this effect:

'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses -
because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and
say that this never happened'

Recently, the UK debated whether to remove The Holocaust from
its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population which
claims it never occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a
frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how
easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in
Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory
of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and
1,900 Catholic priests who were 'murdered, raped, burned, starved,
beaten, experimented on and humiliated' while the German people looked
the other way.

Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the
Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never
forgets.

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link
in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade
Center 'NEVER HAPPENED' because it offends some Muslim in the United
States ?

[Begbie]

There are accuracies and omissions in the email but I'm certainly not getting involved in this discussion.

It annoys me when people have deeply held opinions on, but no in depth current or historical knowledge of, the situation in N. Ireland, so I am not going to blunder in and make the same mistakes.

[mfc1876]

Pretty much why I just shared the email, that way you can make your own mind up. I do agree with the statement that most of them aren't interested in contributing to the society in which they wanted to live in and instead just slate it because it's 'inferior' to the society that they obviously couldn't wait to leave! That's my view anyway, obviously they're not all like that but most of them (in my experience) are.

If the Nobel Prize list won by Jews is correct though then I was most impressed by that, considering that (apparently) they make up only 0.2% of the population!

[elftone1]

For me this email is way to much one sided,was it not germans who committed the holocaust not muslims is just one example.Yes muslims have done terible things like 9/11 but you cannot say that 1.2 billion muslims are of the same mind as these nutters.There are shamefull things that jews have done which done which he fails to mention,like taking over land illegally.
It annoys me when people have deeply held opinions on, but no in depth current or historical knowledge of, the situation in N. Ireland, so I am not going to blunder in and make the same mistakes.

I take it that this is a pop at me begbie seen as i was one of those people who has debated this topic with you lol

[Begbie]

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Originally Posted by elftone1

I take it that this is a pop at me begbie seen as i was one of those people who has debated this topic with you lol

Not you, per se, Elf. It was a pop at everybody (not just on this forum) including those within N. Ireland, who only know the potted history told by one side or the other.

[revolver]

Wow. That was quite literally stupid. It's all conjecture and holds absolutely no intellectual merit. It massively contradicts itself at many points, specifically the part about Muslims brainwashing their people into killing themselves. America has done the exact same thing, but not by planting the ideology of a god, but more the illusion of freedom they are being told they must protect.

The passage regarding UK schools removing the Holocaust from education is a myth and was debunked by everyone. This alone should move doubt over everything else written as non-fact and thus be treated with a cautious eye.

But that will be where I leave this. As Begs said, it is not a good idea to get involved. People who believe that what is written there is fact have just as much in common with the blindly led "Muslims" being described.

[tjl]

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Originally Posted by revolver

Wow. That was quite literally stupid. It's all conjecture and holds absolutely no intellectual merit. It massively contradicts itself at many points, specifically the part about Muslims brainwashing their people into killing themselves. America has done the exact same thing, but not by planting the ideology of a god, but more the illusion of freedom they are being told they must protect.

The passage regarding UK schools removing the Holocaust from education is a myth and was debunked by everyone. This alone should move doubt over everything else written as non-fact and thus be treated with a cautious eye.

But that will be where I leave this. As Begs said, it is not a good idea to get involved. People who believe that what is written there is fact have just as much in common with the blindly led "Muslims" being described.

Religion what ever the Denomination should be outlawed as it as caused more deaths and wars on this planet and for what.. Sweet Fuck All thats what

[Begbie]

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Originally Posted by tjl

Religion what ever the Denomination should be outlawed as it as caused more deaths and wars on this planet and for what.. Sweet Fuck All thats what

I don't agree with anybody who believes in any sort of 'God', no-matter what their religious persuasion is. I do however, believe in their right to follow their own 'God', no matter how tenuous the proof of existence may be.

In the main, problems between different ethnic groups aren't caused by religion. They are caused by the 'siege mentality' of all concerned. I know. I suffer from it.

TJL. When religion was banned in some countries, there was genocide. Ask the people of Kampuchea. Outlawing religion isn't the answer.

[tjl]

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Originally Posted by Begbie

TJL. When religion was banned in some countries, there was genocide. Ask the people of Kampuchea. Outlawing religion isn't the answer.

That maybe so but how does any religion which many preach peace and love of your neighbour and fellow man go round killing non believers of there said religious views because they simply do not agree,I too am a great believer in allowing any one to choose which God he opts to believe in,but Please is there a need to kill or maim other people simply because they have a different opinion,I know there are fanatics in most of the Muslim religion but surely they cannot believe there God would opt for the way they use his name to justify there ends.maybe it's not the answer but I would welcome it...

[KUBLA]

that article was never published anywhere other than in right wing websites and spam emails


the basics of it don't stand up, so why are they claiming that it was "published" ? once you google the author and the name of the article you become aware that it is just fucking anti muslim bullshit

am not a fan of any religion - although respect people's rights to believe - but shite like that is so obviously transparently anti islam that its sad.

[Begbie]

Kubla-bin-Laden. The yids will get you.