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**Begbie** · #1 14-12-2010, 07:35 PM

I'm surprised that there have been very few posts about Wikileaks or the student riots.

Maybe the students need to fly in the Greek dog. 'Mon the dug!

http://www.fsicrew.info/forums/the-r...g-t14777.html?

**glenman** · #2 14-12-2010, 10:11 PM

I loved Camillas face when there were people running at her limo, priceless.

**mfc1876** · #3 14-12-2010, 10:34 PM

I did have sympathy for the students to begin with but now they can fuck right off the fucking stupid, childish cunts. If that's our next generation of doctors, lawyers and scientists then we may as well fucking shoot ourselves now. Cunts

**imperial109** · #4 14-12-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mfc1876

I did have sympathy for the students to begin with but now they can fuck right off the fucking stupid, childish cunts. If that's our next generation of doctors, lawyers and scientists then we may as well fucking shoot ourselves now. Cunts

Be careful not to mix up the minority with the majority. There is even rumblings that people are coming from abroad just to get involved in a scrap and people who aren't even caring about the political motivations of the marches are causing the aggro.

**Begbie** · #5 14-12-2010, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mfc1876

I did have sympathy for the students to begin with but now they can fuck right off the fucking stupid, childish cunts. If that's our next generation of doctors, lawyers and scientists then we may as well fucking shoot ourselves now. Cunts

Have you been reading the Daily Mail?

95% plus of the demonstrators have been peaceful but don't let that get in the way of Tory press fuelled outrage. All students who attended the demos are 'childish cunts'? Get a grip.

The 'kettling operation' is bound to draw more people in to confrontation. Would you be happy to be hemmed in by the peelers for several hours?

Having said that, almost anything that causes this government a problem is OK with me.

**tjl** · #6 15-12-2010, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mfc1876

I did have sympathy for the students to begin with but now they can fuck right off the fucking stupid, childish cunts. If that's our next generation of doctors, lawyers and scientists then we may as well fucking shoot ourselves now. Cunts

Like you I had sympathy for them but I'm sorry times have changed and we as a country can no longer afford the things we once took for granted maybe if they stopped spending and throwing away money on third world countries like Africa where with so much other countries money as been spent the people are still in poverty and the leaders are still financing wars while there people starve and Pakistan and India we have given them millions but still they spend money on atomic weaponry and firing rockets into space again while there people starve and useless wars in places that we shouldn't be in, there would have been a lesser need to bring in cuts to public services,Its time we as a Nation took stock of our own people and spend money righting the wrongs they have inflicted on us who pay enough through countless money earners ie TO FUCKING MANY HIGH TAXES...

**deadlywill** · #7 15-12-2010, 08:08 AM

Even with the rise it's still cheaper to go to uni in the UK than Australia by quite a few thousand dollars. Some of the protesters I saw interviewed on tele wouldn't pass third grade - they were just in it for the biffo with the blue meanies.

And as far as Julian Assange and Wikileaks goes - i'm all for it myself. My country has been partaking in a war that serves no purpose at all in the year 2010. At the start they could go in and destroy the terror camps and what not and then they should have left - in and out within a year but no were all still there - still dying. I'm loving watching the pollies scampering about trying to save face and it had done a very effective job of showing politicians in their true light - a bunch of backstabbing fucking liars. I cant wait for the Wikileaks release of all the american banks shit this month - it'll make quite a few people angry worldwide.

Politicians are not elected to lie to the public fullstop. And as far as revealing America's most important infrastructure around the world goes - i'd be extremely surprised if other countries didn't know about it anyway so no big deal.

**ruudboy** · #8 15-12-2010, 11:07 AM

Excellent thread begs.

I have read the posts in it with interest. I may in future (with permission) read some of them out during work. I'll refrain from posting in thread myself only because . . . . . . I LOG IN TO GET AWAY FROM THE NEWS AND POLITICS!!!

It is good stuff.

**Raff67** · #9 15-12-2010, 04:15 PM

Are Royals exempt from the seat belt law ? Or is it because it's an old motor ?

I have no sympathy for people committing public disorder. If you are in the thick of it then don't whine when you get tear gassed, pepper sprayed, water cannoned or whacked with a baton.

**Burdock** · #10 15-12-2010, 05:34 PM

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Are Royals exempt from the seat belt law ? Or is it because it's an old motor ?

Don't think you need to wear 'em if the car was built without them (and is more than x amount of years old).

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I have no sympathy for people committing public disorder. If you are in the thick of it then don't whine when you get tear gassed, pepper sprayed, water cannoned or whacked with a baton.

Dead right.

#11 15-12-2010, 06:04 PM

A rant;

I went to a comp. Did OK at A level. Parents couldn't afford to send me to uni, luckily it was �1,000 a year then so I worked at Lads Broke. No way I could do that now. The cons are looking after themselves...i.e. the rich.

**mfc1876** · #12 15-12-2010, 08:46 PM

Didn't mean to tar them all with the same brush there, I couldn't really give a fuck about student fees to be honest but I did give a fuck when some twat threw a fucking fire extinguisher off a roof, when some tits started smashing windows, when that prick of a son the Pink Floydd fella has swung off the cenotaph, when they humiliated Charles and Camilla (bit of a royalist in my old age) etc... it's them (as I'm sure everyone else involved in this particular forum) I have the problem with.

Like I say other than that I couldn't really give a rats arse. I have to go to work 6 days a week in fucking agony at the mo to keep a roof over my heavily pregnant mrs and 4 year old son's head and keep food on the table and a boiler that's on the blink in the winter that I can't afford to fix yet so a bunch of students moaning cos they have to pay a few extra quid to go to uni (I have no idea how much extra it is) doesn't really register on my own selfish radar. I'm sorry to sound so flippant but after 2 years of being in pain most people are cunts lol!

Hey Ruud, I dare you to read my posts out... uncensored lol!

**bazzer** · #13 15-12-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by imperial109

Be careful not to mix up the minority with the majority. There is even rumblings that people are coming from abroad just to get involved in a scrap and people who aren't even caring about the political motivations of the marches are causing the aggro.

I can see your point mate . It,s the honest hard studying students I feel sorry for they are marching and demonstrating for a genuine reason ,I personaly know a few people that went to collage but only to get a student loan then dropout ,These are the one,s what have caused this to happen I think im right in saying there are 4 to 5 times as many students now to a few years ago ,somebody has to pick up the bill ,hammer those that took out loans then droppedout and made no attempt to pay it back ,collage was a easy option for the minority that did not want to work it was made to easy for them to get a collage placement and buck the system , Should revert back to the old system where you had to do well at school to get your placement its only fair for those who work hard at School

**ruudboy** · #14 15-12-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mfc1876

Didn't mean to tar them all with the same brush there, I couldn't really give a fuck about student fees to be honest but I did give a fuck when some twat threw a fucking fire extinguisher off a roof, when some tits started smashing windows, when that prick of a son the Pink Floydd fella has swung off the cenotaph, when they humiliated Charles and Camilla (bit of a royalist in my old age) etc... it's them (as I'm sure everyone else involved in this particular forum) I have the problem with.

Like I say other than that I couldn't really give a rats arse. I have to go to work 6 days a week in fucking agony at the mo to keep a roof over my heavily pregnant mrs and 4 year old son's head and keep food on the table and a boiler that's on the blink in the winter that I can't afford to fix yet so a bunch of students moaning cos they have to pay a few extra quid to go to uni (I have no idea how much extra it is) doesn't really register on my own selfish radar. I'm sorry to sound so flippant but after 2 years of being in pain most people are cunts lol!

Hey Ruud, I dare you to read my posts out... uncensored lol!

I will mate,

I'm annoyed I didn't see it otherwise I'd have read it tonight. I will read it in full tomorrow at start of show. I empathise to a degree with what you say. The violenece is shocking. Bazzers point about the kids who do best in high school getting the places is understandable, but bright kids in less advantaged areas can sometimes fare less successfully in exams because they don't have the best teachers available. It all comes down to class unfortunately. Now don't spew vitriol at me, I know there are kids who do well in high school despite a difficult upbringing. I'm one of them by the way, I speak from experience there, but I was driven to do well as I wanted away from my home and my violent old man. Too much info lol. I am an ideallist. Let anyone who wants to go to uni, go. I do understand Bazz's argument. There are many who agree with him and think I am a liberal champagne socialist. They might be right

**mfc1876** · #15 15-12-2010, 11:19 PM

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I will mate,

I'm annoyed I didn't see it otherwise I'd have read it tonight. I will read it in full tomorrow at start of show. I empathise to a degree with what you say. The violenece is shocking. Bazzers point about the kids who do best in high school getting the places is understandable, but bright kids in less advantaged areas can sometimes fare less successfully in exams because they don't have the best teachers available. It all comes down to class unfortunately. Now don't spew vitriol at me, I know there are kids who do well in high school despite a difficult upbringing. I'm one of them by the way, I speak from experience there, but I was driven to do well as I wanted away from my home and my violent old man. Too much info lol. I am an ideallist. Let anyone who wants to go to uni, go. I do understand Bazz's argument. There are many who agree with him and think I am a liberal champagne socialist. They might be right

I was only joking on the reading it out thing lol! Anyway you'd get sacked for saying 'cunts' on the air ya know

I do see Bazzer's point by the way. I do have sympathy for the ones who want to go to college/uni whatever and be somebody important when they leave. Hell, if everyone was like me and just went straight into work wanting to earn a crust straight off we wouldn't have any doctors and teachers etc (who would I go to see when I can't have a shit? lol). Like Bazzer says, it's the ones that only want to go to put off entering the 'real' world for another few years that's fucked it up for everyone else.

There was some lecturer/professor? from some college/uni on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2 a couple of weeks ago basically condoning the actions of the rioters as it got the protestations into the public eye. He was probably right in the fact that it immediately got more coverage and became the leading story on all the news, but don't condone it for fuck sake you thick twat!

**Begbie** · #16 16-12-2010, 11:54 AM

I think that there are far too many 'dodgy' degrees about and too many students who are honestly too stupid to be at Uni.

We have all heard about silly degree subjects on offer. Get rid of them immediately. Other degrees offer subjects that may have a practical purpose but there is a dis-proportionate number of people allowed to do these degrees than there are possible vacancies in that field.

I did a degree in computing about 10 years ago as a mature student. The maths module was of a lower standard than I had done at maths GCE 'O' Level in 1978. Surely 'O' level maths should be a pre-requisite for a computer science degree? Or does a lower standard of maths now get you a pass at 'O' and 'A' levels.

**deadlywill** · #17 16-12-2010, 12:38 PM

it's not just you Begs - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...13/3092013.htm

**ruudboy** · #18 16-12-2010, 03:29 PM

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I think that there are far too many 'dodgy' degrees about and too many students who are honestly too stupid to be at Uni.

We have all heard about silly degree subjects on offer. Get rid of them immediately. Other degrees offer subjects that may have a practical purpose but there is a dis-proportionate number of people allowed to do these degrees than there are possible vacancies in that field.

I did a degree in computing about 10 years ago as a mature student. The maths module was of a lower standard than I had done at maths GCE 'O' Level in 1978. Surely 'O' level maths should be a pre-requisite for a computer science degree? Or does a lower standard of maths now get you a pass at 'O' and 'A' levels.

Good points.

One thing which surprises me, is Universities offering courses when employment prospects in those sectors have dried up. There are millions of people with commercial computing degrees etc, out of work. we are saturated with IT consultants. I know this to be true in Spain. Universities should be looking at areas where there are shortages of skills and providing courses. But I suppose Universities would argue that they would then be no different to training centres.

As for the ridiculous degrees, yes I can�t disagree. I studied History and English and while I didn�t end up a teacher or a historian (bee gees are a manchester band fucked me!) the degree helped me get into journalism. There is still a feeling amongst 19-20 year olds that Uni is some sort of right of passage. many go just for the sake of it, the social side and all that. I understand when people are annoyed by that. I myself get pissed off when I hear the stats every year about first year drop outs. I have no problem with someone changing course, but to piss off altogether after a few months is surely a waste of someone elses opportunity

**wakka839** · #19 16-12-2010, 04:11 PM

I think universities have a right to offer 'mickey mouse' courses, as the industry now requires them. I can only use my own example, i'm studying computer games design, and i didnt want to go to uni originally, but my college tutor said it was best way to further myself and get into the industry, he was right and many people look for a degree when hiring in the games industry, its possible to get into it without a degree, but that individual has to be self taught, and if they can do that why would they bother paying someone else at university to teach them? Many other of these ridiculous degrees are sometimes also required to get a job in that particular industry, cant blame the university for offering people the opportunity in that career choice. Also the university offers access to equipment and software which is very expensive to attain other places legally.

As for those first year drop outs they need to pay loans and fees back within a couple of years.

As for the fees going up, there will be good and bad points, but maybe it might make people appreciate being at uni a bit more, rather than the drug filled alcoholics i see about the place.

I am still at uni after 4 years, and i've had the time of my life, would stay here for life if i could, its been an experience and taught me a lot of life lessons.

**Begbie** · #20 11-01-2011, 12:03 AM

Now that the US has got rid of the "Don't ask, don't tell" rule for gay people in the military, what do you think about the idea in general?

Males and females don't shower together, should homosexuals have their own shower? It has been said to me that just because a guy is gay, it doesn't mean that he is going to look at me in the shower. I can say the same thing about straight men and straight women sharing a shower. Different sexualities can't share a facility like showers. It's too personal.

That's my opinion. What's your thoughts?